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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Goldsmiths ends Queer History MA, to xomplaints

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Treaclewell · 20/07/2024 07:53

I picked this up from an annoying little feed on my laptop so can't link, but the lead tutor (Bengry) been made redundant and is not best pleased.
Weren't Goldsmiths' students very active in shutting down women's groups in the area back a few years?
They are alsp ending their Black History MA.
The story was first in the Independent but I can't find it on their site.

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EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2024 10:28

Solrock · 21/07/2024 02:31

These MAs (and similar tertiary qualifications) exist largely as marketing tools. Given that most under/postgraduate degrees in the humanities have a modular basis, an institution can offer specific modules on queer history / black history / Tartarian empire history, and a student can effectively design the focus of their own qualifications. There's no academic need to offer these as discrete degree courses, providing an institution is offering variety within a particular course of study.

But higher education is a business now, and marketing is important. Offering queer history / black history / Tartarian empire history gives a means by which courses can be publicised, and students drawn to an institution. If you can claim to be the only university offering a particular qualification, you can draw people in who might otherwise be tempted to study at other, better institutions. Of course, if no-one is interested in taking on a particular course, it doesn't have much of a reason for existence. Within a modular system you can maintain a skeleton course, but not if, as in this instance, the course leaders are being made redundant.

Yes, and when I was at university it was actually hard to get accepted onto any postgraduate course whereas now, provided the qualification is useless, (i.e., you are not studying so you can operate on people or engineer bridges) if you stump up the money you can do it. Hence the proliferation of badly-educated activist-academics who have basically paid for their credentials. And, of course, faddy research and flashy conferences are what attract funding to departments so these are the people who get promoted.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2024 10:58

The massive expansion in people getting first degrees seems to have opened up a lucrative market for the universities, as having a Master's is touted as being one way to stand out from the crowd. In reality it must favour the same demographic as used to dominate first degrees, viz, young people from affluent, confident families who were sent to good schools and supported in all sorts of ways to achieve the grades to get to university. An extra year or two to get a Master's is not an overwhelming barrier if you're not on the breadline.

Solrock · 21/07/2024 11:17

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2024 10:58

The massive expansion in people getting first degrees seems to have opened up a lucrative market for the universities, as having a Master's is touted as being one way to stand out from the crowd. In reality it must favour the same demographic as used to dominate first degrees, viz, young people from affluent, confident families who were sent to good schools and supported in all sorts of ways to achieve the grades to get to university. An extra year or two to get a Master's is not an overwhelming barrier if you're not on the breadline.

And this is also the reason the rising number of qualifications such as Queer History, as the uselessness of what is being studied in practical terms is also a way of setting oneself apart from the wider population. These are qualifications in luxury beliefs and, through this, are designed to show that those who have studied them have intellectual refinement which sets them apart from the masses. It's the equivalent of upper class schooling in the Victorian period having a curriculum based entirely around the study of Latin and Greek.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2024 12:14

I note that Goldsmiths proudly points to DEI jobs as the next step for many of its graduates.

SidewaysOtter · 21/07/2024 13:14

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2024 12:14

I note that Goldsmiths proudly points to DEI jobs as the next step for many of its graduates.

A market which may be facing significant shrinkage as the grift is exposed.

And let’s face it, if a candidate rocks up to an interview proudly waving their degree in Queer Theory or Transgender Archaeology (I just don’t have enough eye rolls for that one), they might as well be waving a red flag that says “I’m going to be a nightmare employee”.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2024 13:56

Agreed!

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