Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Helen webberly license withdrawn

47 replies

spannasaurus · 19/07/2024 08:35

Helen Webberly of gender gp no longer has a license to practise medicine
https://www.gendergp.com/helen-webberley-faqs-about-withdrawal-license-to-practise/www.gendergp.com/helen-webberley-faqs-about-withdrawal-license-to-practise/

OP posts:
Sloejelly · 19/07/2024 10:37

HoneyButterPopcorn · 19/07/2024 10:31

She will Find a way around it. Too much £££££ at risk for her surely?

It is not clear whether she now lives in the UK, her business certainly isn’t based here. Her loss of licence is more symbolic than likely to have a real impact on her. Sadly.

Citrusandginger · 19/07/2024 10:44

From the Times article.

She said that she could not revalidate her licence because she could not find a “responsible officer”, or suitable person, to vouch for her fitness to practise.

And there you have it.

Datun · 19/07/2024 10:54

lcakethereforeIam · 19/07/2024 08:58

From the Times article it seems she's going to carry on regardless. All the quotes from her read like a 'yah, boo, sucks!' to the GMC, Dr Cass, Wes Streeting and, in fact, anyone who believes puberty blockers are dangerous.

Perhaps the answer it to criminalise parents and carers who get these for children in their care? Feck, they fine parents for unauthorised absences, this has surely got to be worse!?

Yes, unless it's bravado, she doesn't seem to care. It seems she has tame doctors who will just write prescriptions for anyone who contacts her, so she sidesteps the unlicensed bit.

The good news is people quoting her will look even more dodgy now.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 19/07/2024 11:19

GiveMeMySoddingCokeZero · 19/07/2024 08:57

She can advise on homeopathic medicine, apparently 🤣

If Gender GP switches to prescribing homeopathic puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for all who want them I'll be delighted.

(OK, it's affirming social transition so not ideal - but a whole lot better than the pharmaceutical versions.)

GiveMeMySoddingCokeZero · 19/07/2024 11:37

NoBinturongsHereMate · 19/07/2024 11:19

If Gender GP switches to prescribing homeopathic puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for all who want them I'll be delighted.

(OK, it's affirming social transition so not ideal - but a whole lot better than the pharmaceutical versions.)

Oh I thoroughly agree 😁 I just thought it was hilarious (and kind of telling) that she gave advising on homeopathic remedies as an example of "medicine" she was still thoroughly qualified to carry out.

(I mean, I can show you a pet rat that's as qualified as any human to give reliable, knowledgeable and useful homeopathic advice, and Ratty's been dead and buried under my front-garden buddleia for a good decade.)

WickedSerious · 19/07/2024 12:15

HoneyButterPopcorn · 19/07/2024 10:31

She will Find a way around it. Too much £££££ at risk for her surely?

Yes,because just like the Hokey Cokey that's what it's all about.

AlisonDonut · 19/07/2024 12:29

Signalbox · 19/07/2024 08:54

Looks like she’s completely isolated herself. So infamous and arrogant that nobody wants to touch her with a barge pole. You’d think Harrop would vouch for her though. She can’t even do the special course for people with no friends because she’s narrowed her practice to “gender medicine”. Such good news. I bet the GMC can’t believe their luck.

They want the business for themselves.

There is a large list of registered gender doctors on the Government Gender page, who are probably all more than happy to take on the workload.

OldCrone · 19/07/2024 12:49

From the FAQ:

I don’t need to diagnose people as being transgender, and I believe them when they tell me they are trans. I don’t need to administer treatment, as these people are not ill. They simply desire some hormonal adjustment.

So 'being trans' is now a lifestyle choice in which people 'desire some hormonal adjustment'.

A bit like desiring some cosmetic surgery because they've decided their nose is too big.

Glad we've cleared that up. The NHS don't have to give trans people any special medication or surgery for their transness because it's not an illness and they don't need treatment.

(I can see why some trans identified people hate her.)

My work will be to prevent the need for medical diagnosis, medical pathologisation, or even medical certification for something so natural as gender incongruence. I don’t need a license to practise to do that.

I think I can go along with that. Gender incongruence is completely natural, and nobody needs any medical treatment because of it. No puberty blockers, hormones or surgery. No certification to say that someone is officially recognised as genuinely impersonating the opposite sex. Great.

Maaate · 19/07/2024 12:51

The other exam that the GMC suggested I sit is the one that covers doctors fresh from medical school. However, I qualified many years ago and have not covered the topic areas such as surgery, orthopaedics, and pathology since 1992.

I'm obviously being really thick here, but do doctors stop "training" at the point they qualify?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 19/07/2024 12:59

They have to do a specified number of hours of continuing professional development every year to stay up to date, but I think that is (or can be) limited to their own specialty.

GiveMeMySoddingCokeZero · 19/07/2024 13:27

NoBinturongsHereMate · 19/07/2024 12:59

They have to do a specified number of hours of continuing professional development every year to stay up to date, but I think that is (or can be) limited to their own specialty.

Most psychiatrists I've come across seem to violently and with great gusto fling everything they were ever taught about physical health as far out of their brains as they can, as soon after becoming a psychiatrist as humanly possible. If they knew about that stuff, they might have to actually touch a patient 🤢

NoBinturongsHereMate · 19/07/2024 13:39

😆

Signalbox · 19/07/2024 14:55

LeFromage · 19/07/2024 09:24

Disappointing - as other posters have already said will be brushed off as a technicality. Wonder if there’s a right of appeal to revalidate

I worked for another one of the regulators and if it's the same system you can reapply but you have to jump through certain hoops to show that you are fit to practise.

She's put herself in a pretty difficult position because she appears to have narrowed her field of practice to only gender medicine and she clearly now has quite a bad reputation and has isolated herself from colleagues. She also works from outside of the UK. The fact that she can't find a single person or organisation prepared to vouch for her seems significant.

Here's the GMC's revalidation criteria. You can see how she might struggle to reapply for her license even if she wanted to...

It might be a "technicality" but I think it will probably be a pretty difficult one to overcome if you are Helen Webberley. It's not just a case of not completing enough CPD hours.

www.gmc-uk.org/registration-and-licensing/managing-your-registration/revalidation/guidance-for-doctors-requirements-for-revalidation/revalidation-requirements-for-doctors

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 19/07/2024 15:12

It might be a "technicality" but I think it will probably be a pretty difficult one to overcome if you are Helen Webberley. It's not just a case of not completing enough CPD hours.

The original MPTS ruling (suspension later successfully appealed by her in 2023) and explanation in 2022 highlighted there are some people who effectively lionise her and judge her to be a thoughtleader/the vanguard of gender medicine.

Tribunal chairman Angus Macpherson said: "The tribunal finds that the reluctance of the Endocrine Society and others to embrace enlightened views of transgenderism is symptomatic of the tendency in all professions to be slow to move with the times.
"This inertia in respect to medical attitudes to transgenderism mirrors past attitudes to homosexuality, which was classified by the APA as a mental illness until the 1973 edition of their DMS."
Mr Macpherson said Dr Webberley may have been considered as being "at the vanguard" of the evolving approach to transgender healthcare.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61213539

UtopiaPlanitia · 19/07/2024 15:29

A lack of UK colleagues wishing to put their name on revalidation paperwork might be related to the research carried out by the Cass Review. Attitudes may have very recently changed to being more cautious rather than wanting to be involved with someone ‘at the vanguard’.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 19/07/2024 15:40

UtopiaPlanitia · 19/07/2024 15:29

A lack of UK colleagues wishing to put their name on revalidation paperwork might be related to the research carried out by the Cass Review. Attitudes may have very recently changed to being more cautious rather than wanting to be involved with someone ‘at the vanguard’.

I'd quietly hoped for that until I saw the BMA Council even entertaining a motion to disavow the Cass Review (whistleblowing about this plausibly underpins why it was amended/not voted on).

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5121019-bma-to-vote-to-disavow-the-cass-review

BMA to vote to 'disavow' the Cass review | Mumsnet

The governing body of the BMA is to hold a vote tomorrow (Wednesday July 17) to 'disavow' the Cass Review. Words fail me to be honest. Any d...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5121019-bma-to-vote-to-disavow-the-cass-review

spannasaurus · 19/07/2024 15:43

The BMA counsel motion only required 6 counsel members to agree to put it forward so may just be a small number of activists making a lot of noise.

OP posts:
GenderBlender · 19/07/2024 15:58

This won't stop this woman. She is an evil, manipulative predator. So many people have been unwittingly sucked into this madness. But not her and her husband, they saw a gap in the market and they are exploiting it for every penny they can get. I really do hope one day she gets her comeuppance.

Omlettes · 19/07/2024 16:29

spannasaurus · 19/07/2024 08:35

FINALLY!

AnnaMagnani · 19/07/2024 16:34

There are lots of GPs out there doing niche jobs that aren't really General Practice but they all still manage to revalidate.

If you aren't employed by the NHS there are appraisal and revalidation companies you can sign up for so you can still do the process.

What she means is she either didn't bother meeting the requirements of revalidation or, even worse, she tried but no company was prepared to sign her off as she was so clearly dodgy.

heathspeedwell · 19/07/2024 17:36

Disappointing to see the Times using the outdated term 'trans child'. Sounds like the article was written by someone who hasn't even glanced at the Cass review.

thirdfiddle · 19/07/2024 20:28

She can advise on homeopathic medicine, apparently 🤣

Yesss! Homeopathic puberty blockers, a match made in heaven.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page