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Reform MP was once jailed for attacking ex-girlfriend outside nightclub

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WarriorN · 13/07/2024 08:31

How the ever living fuck is he allowed to be an MP?

From David Challen:

Reform MP was once jailed for attacking ex-girlfriend outside nightclub. James McMurdock pleaded guilty to one charge of assault. He has since likened the attack to a ‘teenage indiscretion’.

Reform confirmed that they KNEW of Murdock’s conviction when selecting him, but disputed the details of the assault.

Murdock launched the attack on his victim outside a nightclub. It was only brought to a halt after two doorman pulled him off her. Murdock denies the horrific details of the attack that left his former girlfriend with both injuries and lasting mental scars.

The mother of the victim said:

‘McMurdock is a monster. He left marks on her body.

'It took two security guards to pull him off her.

'There is no way he should be an MP in the House of Commons representing people.'

Men who beat women and deny the harm they caused do NOT deserve a place in our Parliament.
➡️ dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…

x.com/david_challen/status/1811997942384881900?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

If Labour are serious about vawg they need to start with parliament.

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WarriorN · 13/07/2024 08:33

He doesn't even accept he did it.

Reform UK said the party 'believes strongly that people can change their lives.'

Yet, DON’T accept facts of the case:

'Mr McMurdock absolutely rejects allegations that he either kicked, stamped or punched the victim, though he accepts that he pushed her, she fell and was injured.’

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TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

LizzieSiddal · 13/07/2024 09:08

Bloody hell. Is this all over the news? If not why not.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2024 09:15

LizzieSiddal · 13/07/2024 09:08

Bloody hell. Is this all over the news? If not why not.

Farage is a cult ? Mustn't disturb the Great (very) White Hope ?

I would have thought the Tories would be all over this. I can only assume they approve. Maybe he's mates with Stanley Johnson ?

WarriorN · 13/07/2024 09:19

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

That's what I thought.

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Feckedupbundle · 13/07/2024 09:22

A criminal record should disbar a person from being an MP,but it clearly doesn't as in Leicester, the previously Labour MP Claudia Webbe stood as an Independent after being convicted of threatening to throw acid on a woman.
I think it depends on the sentence given,which is wrong.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 13/07/2024 09:26

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

No, it doesn't.

If you're convicted while an MP you only automatically lose your seat if sentenced to over a year in prison. If under a year, there's a recall petition but you can keep your seat if that doesn't pass.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 09:38

Thanks Feckedupbundle and DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace.

I think any kind of criminal conviction should prevent someone from holding political office, but given the loopholes, I'm very doubtful any of the political parties, especially Labour or Conservative, will enact meaningful legislation to stop this from happening.

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2024 09:52

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

People who are bankrupt cannot stand to be MPs. The Representation of the People Act 1981 excludes persons who are currently serving a prison sentence of a year or more.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 13/07/2024 10:14

"Currrently" being the key word. A sitting MP.would lose their seat of given a long enough sentence - but people with convictons are not prevented from standing after release.

WarriorN · 13/07/2024 14:55

If Labour mean business about vawg, I hope he hangs his head in shame every time it is discussed.

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User135644 · 13/07/2024 14:59

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2024 09:15

Farage is a cult ? Mustn't disturb the Great (very) White Hope ?

I would have thought the Tories would be all over this. I can only assume they approve. Maybe he's mates with Stanley Johnson ?

Was the same with UKIP. Farage treated as a folk hero and the face of the party but their candidates were bottom of the barrel.

ruby1957 · 13/07/2024 15:18

The 'HATE' on this site is appalling.

He committed the crime 20 years ago, served a short jail sentence and is therefore no longer bared from getting on with his life
I do not condone what he did of course - but a teenager can do the most stupid things in a fit of anger.

Judge the person NOW regardless of whether you 'hate his politics', everyone deserves a second chance.

ChimneyPot · 13/07/2024 15:30

RedToothBrush · 13/07/2024 09:52

People who are bankrupt cannot stand to be MPs. The Representation of the People Act 1981 excludes persons who are currently serving a prison sentence of a year or more.

I presume this was a reaction to Republican hunger strikers being elected while serving long sentences for terrorist offences.

i don’t believe previous convictions should disbar someone from election. If people want to elect someone who has convictions surely this how democracy works.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/07/2024 15:30

WarriorN · 13/07/2024 09:19

That's what I thought.

No, Bobby Sands was elected when he was in prison.

WarriorN · 13/07/2024 15:40

ruby1957 · 13/07/2024 15:18

The 'HATE' on this site is appalling.

He committed the crime 20 years ago, served a short jail sentence and is therefore no longer bared from getting on with his life
I do not condone what he did of course - but a teenager can do the most stupid things in a fit of anger.

Judge the person NOW regardless of whether you 'hate his politics', everyone deserves a second chance.

No "hate" here. What hyperbole.

Just rather appalled that he appears to still deny it.

And is now an MP.

How can we trust someone like this with drafting and voting on laws that protect women and girls?

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Cromwell1905 · 18/07/2024 15:47

Feckedupbundle · 13/07/2024 09:22

A criminal record should disbar a person from being an MP,but it clearly doesn't as in Leicester, the previously Labour MP Claudia Webbe stood as an Independent after being convicted of threatening to throw acid on a woman.
I think it depends on the sentence given,which is wrong.

This is not true I don’t like the woman and think her vile but she was not convicted of threatening to throw acid this was proven to be untrue.

Lilysienna1 · 18/07/2024 23:49

It was something he deeply regrets. It was outside of a nightclub, both of them drunk. She was pushing him and he pushed her back. There were no marks on her body though. He admitted it there and then, that he pushed her, and accepted the consequences. He’s gone on to live a good life, happily married and is a great dad.

Cromwell1905 · 19/07/2024 03:49

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

Gerry Adams, Martin McGuniess ? You could not have thought very hard.

EatMoreFibre · 19/07/2024 05:15

TheColourOutOfSpace · 13/07/2024 08:54

I thought criminal convictions automatically disbarred someone from being a MP? Or is there nothing to prevent them from doing so?

No i don't think so. Shocking, isn't it? I think the assumption is that people with such criminal pasts would self-exclude from public service. Obviously this MP doesn't think like that.

It makes me think of the Blackadder election episode when Baldrick wants to become an MP and Blackadder advises him to make up several convictions as it's essential for the job. Hilarious episode and it seems quire apt sometimes

LarkspurLane · 19/07/2024 08:33

Lilysienna1 · 18/07/2024 23:49

It was something he deeply regrets. It was outside of a nightclub, both of them drunk. She was pushing him and he pushed her back. There were no marks on her body though. He admitted it there and then, that he pushed her, and accepted the consequences. He’s gone on to live a good life, happily married and is a great dad.

You are minimising the attack a lot, he went to jail for it.

highame · 19/07/2024 08:51

I do not like Reform. I think the chances of misogynists in their ranks is extremely high. VAWG is a terrible thing and too much of it around. However, I do think we need a bit of level headedness. Youth is a daft age, all sorts of things happen. He doesn't strike me as a generally violent man and there have been no similar occurrences. Are we saying that anyone, at any time who does anything to land them in jail should carry that stain with them for the whole of their lives.

Should an Hamas supporter be an MP, after all it's a banned organisation in the UK and is diabolical on the rights of women.

I have strong feelings on VAWG but he served his time and I think justice has been served. Should his crime continue for life?

EatMoreFibre · 19/07/2024 09:27

Youth is a daft age, all sorts of things happen. He doesn't strike me as a generally violent man and there have been no similar occurrences. Are we saying that anyone, at any time who does anything to land them in jail should carry that stain with them for the whole of their lives

I was as much of an idiot as any teenager and managed not to assault anyone. Most people don't assault their partners.

He is also minimising the assault, in a way that contradicts witness statements.

I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had his information been made public before the election. Isn't this the MP that won by a tiny margin? Did Reform suppress this information deliberately, or they just don't vet their candidates? And would voters have been put off by a conviction for violence against women? I would have but I'm not sure about voters as a whole.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 19/07/2024 09:47

EatMoreFibre · 19/07/2024 09:27

Youth is a daft age, all sorts of things happen. He doesn't strike me as a generally violent man and there have been no similar occurrences. Are we saying that anyone, at any time who does anything to land them in jail should carry that stain with them for the whole of their lives

I was as much of an idiot as any teenager and managed not to assault anyone. Most people don't assault their partners.

He is also minimising the assault, in a way that contradicts witness statements.

I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had his information been made public before the election. Isn't this the MP that won by a tiny margin? Did Reform suppress this information deliberately, or they just don't vet their candidates? And would voters have been put off by a conviction for violence against women? I would have but I'm not sure about voters as a whole.

98 votes.

And Reform have said they were aware of the conviction when he was selected.

Lilysienna1 · 19/07/2024 10:18

LarkspurLane · 19/07/2024 08:33

You are minimising the attack a lot, he went to jail for it.

I’m not minimising anything. I know what he did and what the consequences were.

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