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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

EHRC consultation

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Imnobody4 · 11/07/2024 16:43

We have launched a public consultation on our next Strategic Plan for 2025-2028.

https://twitter.com/EHRC/status/1811314863840379053?t=3BJjhpKbvAwVgoah406psA&s=19 The survey will be open from 09:00 on 11 July 2024 to 17:00 on 3 October 2024.Haven't read properly yet but of the aims isLegal clarity around issues where there may be tension between the rights of two or more groups, for example, in relation to sex and gender or matters of religion or belief.

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https://twitter.com/EHRC/status/1811314863840379053?s=19&t=3BJjhpKbvAwVgoah406psA

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ArabellaScott · 11/07/2024 17:06

'This twelve-week consultation encourages individuals and organisations to share their views on our future direction as Britain’s independent equality and human rights regulator.

We have identified three key areas where we can drive improvements and create long-term change. These are:

  • Work
  • Participation and good relations
  • Justice and the balance of rights

Our actions over the next three years will be guided by the feedback from this consultation, our analysis of data and evidence and by our extensive understanding of the equality and human rights challenges facing people in Britain.

Everyone is invited to participate by completing a survey on our website. Running from 11 July until 3 October 2024, respondents can review a draft of our Strategic Plan 2025-28 before completing the public survey on our website.

Responses collected in the survey will be anonymised and analysed before being published in a report alongside the final plan in March 2025.'

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/our-work/our-strategic-plan-consultation-2025-2028

Our Strategic Plan consultation: 2025 – 2028 | EHRC

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/our-work/our-strategic-plan-consultation-2025-2028

ArabellaScott · 11/07/2024 17:07

'Theme 3: Justice and the Balance of Rights

  1. Legal clarity around issues where there may be tension between the rights of two or more groups, for example, in relation to sex and gender or matters of religion or belief.
UpThePankhurst · 11/07/2024 17:19

Can't they refer on this to the huge pile of consultations already completed?

ArabellaScott · 11/07/2024 17:22

It's a good consultation, which raises several pertinent questions about freedom of speech and expression, women's rights, rape prosecutions, disability rights, race issues, interaction of GRA and EA, etc.

Free text boxes!

A chance to let rip with your opinion of how badly we've been let down by this shittily drafted law and the bodies whose jobs it's supposed to be to help people understand it.

You could also suggest repealing the GRA, should you be so inclined.

ArabellaScott · 11/07/2024 17:23

*some free text boxes, and some limited to 50 words.

Hoardasurass · 11/07/2024 17:25

Thanks @Imnobody4 will have a read and fill it in later

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/07/2024 17:27

Sounds good @ArabellaScott

Iwishihadariver · 11/07/2024 17:29

Thanks Imnobody4. On it!

Littlewhingingfucker · 11/07/2024 17:30

Excellent! I wonder if Eden Palmer could get someone to scrape the results for transphobia?

Manderleyagain · 11/07/2024 17:43

I think this might be a really important one. The more sensible direction taken by ehrc under baroness (I've forgotten her name- faulkner?) has been key. Her contract's up for renewal and I worry she'll be replaced with harman and the org will change tack. So we need to show them that lots of people wouldn't be supportive of that, and can set out why not. A main tra on twitter is trying to get her followers to fill out this consultation saying gc's rarely submit to consultations (!!!).

Keeptoiletssafe · 11/07/2024 18:24

There was no tension with the new toilet designs. The toilet consultation was so focused on mixed sex spaces and therefore ‘privacy and dignity’ it has ignored health and safety design elements vital for certain groups.

Everything was about enclosure. It was completely focused on the initial policy goals that were influenced by Stonewall’s lobbying.

The civil service and private organisations, like ARUP, that the government commissioned, need to keep in mind all the protected characteristics when regulating design that affects everyone.

When I pointed out the design problems to the EHRC, I was given the link to the form I could fill in when I could prove someone had died/been sexually assaulted because of the toilet designs coming in October 2024. I understand but would rather they are sorted first.

I will fill out the form but it’s so demoralising.

ArabellaScott · 11/07/2024 18:56

It's certainly too little, too late. I've been thoroughly pissed off with how EHRC have failed to address the issues it was created to regulate.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 11/07/2024 20:11

Will be reading in detail. They should step away where it is a safeguarding issue, and deferring to safeguarding experts. That is the main problem we've seen - but that was under a Conservative government and with Falkner.

God only knows what horrors await us under Labour and - horror of horrors - Harman.

But my instinct is that they need to back off of areas that are safeguarding first. An example:

Q: Should children have to confirm the feelings of an adult teacher who says he's female?
A: NO. This is what Safer Recruitment is for.

These are not "rights" issues.

duc748 · 11/07/2024 20:16

Should children have to confirm the feelings of an adult teacher who says he's female?

There's a question that could be put to politicians.

WhodoVoodoo · 12/07/2024 05:59

bump

UpThePankhurst · 12/07/2024 07:52

duc748 · 11/07/2024 20:16

Should children have to confirm the feelings of an adult teacher who says he's female?

There's a question that could be put to politicians.

Quite.

And links to many other questions, the central one being: to what extent should a person with a TQ+ identity be enabled to control and use non consenting others for their own desired experience?

RedToothBrush · 12/07/2024 08:04

UpThePankhurst · 11/07/2024 17:19

Can't they refer on this to the huge pile of consultations already completed?

I think in fairness, the last consultation deliberately excluded certain groups and this consultation makes a point about competing beliefs reflecting Forstater which previous ones totally omitted.

But yes why are we here all over again? Think about the cost this has been to the tax payer.

highame · 12/07/2024 09:34

Keep your eyes peeled for many more consultations over the coming years. A government with a landslide needs to convince us that they are not riding roughshod over us, especially in contentious areas.

UpThePankhurst · 12/07/2024 15:37

RedToothBrush · 12/07/2024 08:04

I think in fairness, the last consultation deliberately excluded certain groups and this consultation makes a point about competing beliefs reflecting Forstater which previous ones totally omitted.

But yes why are we here all over again? Think about the cost this has been to the tax payer.

I'm afraid I'm now deeply cynical and beyond fed up.

We have all patiently filled them out how many times now?

Sometimes they actually get fed back on and the results published - not always - and sometimes the Scots govt panic and lose them because they don't like the results. But what actually happens? When does it lead to real actions taken?

It's long grass. An expensive way to do nothing while looking earnestly on the ball, and you can spin it out for years. Quite possibly until after the next election.

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