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Reformist elected Iran's new president - some small hope for Iranian women?

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IwantToRetire · 06/07/2024 22:25

Reformist Masoud Pezeshkian has been elected as Iran's new president, beating his hardline conservative rival Saeed Jalili.

Dr Pezeshkian, a 71-year-old heart surgeon and member of the Iranian parliament, is critical of Iran’s notorious morality police and caused a stir after promising “unity and cohesion”, as well as an end to Iran's “isolation” from the world.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx824yl3ln4o
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Pezeshkian has been an advocate of letting women choose whether to wear the hijab

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/06/iran-reformist-masoud-pezeshkian-extends-lead-in-presidential-election-count
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Iran's new president gives hope to some women and younger voters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2g1m5eev4o

Lets hope that even if he can only achieve modest reforms, women will regain some of their rights.

Remembering Mahsa Amini, and all the other brave women in Iran

Women, Life, Freedom

Masoud Pezeshkian

Iran election: Reformer Masoud Pezeshkian elected new president

The former heart surgeon has beaten his hardline conservative rival Saeed Jalili.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx824yl3ln4o

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Imnobody4 · 06/07/2024 22:59

I wish him all the best but admit I'm not very optimistic
The fact that he was voted in shows the dissatisfaction with the Ayatollah so hopefully he'll respond with loosening his grip a bit

OvaHere · 06/07/2024 23:22

A small glimmer of hope. There's a long way to go but I'll be interested to see if he can have any impact.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 06/07/2024 23:28

Fingers crossed and really hope it's a sign of more positive things to come.

stickygotstuck · 06/07/2024 23:32

Good luck to him and to Iran. Let's hope this makes a difference.

fashionqueen0123 · 06/07/2024 23:34

wow let’s hope this is good news for Iranian women. I’m suprised someone like that is even allowed to get votes.

Chickenuggetsticks · 06/07/2024 23:35

Nah, doesn’t matter what they call themselves, every single one is a front for the government. They wouldn’t get anywhere near power if they weren’t. Two cheeks of the same arse as that wanker Galloway puts it.

reddit newiran is seething.

Omlettes · 07/07/2024 04:06

I really really hope so. The women of Iran need a break so badly, even a lessening of the oppression at this point would be a blessing.

mach2 · 07/07/2024 06:51

I'm no expert but my impression of Iranian power from past reading is that it is vested mainly in the Supreme Leader and Revolutionary Guard. I'm also not an optimistic, though cracks do seem to be appearing.

teawamutu · 07/07/2024 10:57

A tiny step. Here's hoping.

mirax · 07/07/2024 15:17

So many naive people on MN. Tbere was a turn out of 14%, officially exaggerated to 42% because the Iranians boycotted this sham election and have seen through the "reformist" lie. The only feminist course of action is to wish/work for the total downfall of the mullahocracy.

mirax · 07/07/2024 16:56

Official results of the Iranian Presidential election:
"Total votes: 24,535,185
"Total valid votes: 23,479,026
"Masoud Pezeshkian: 10,415,991
"Saeed Jalili: 9,473,298
"Mohammed Bagher Ghalibaf: 3,383,340
"Mustafa Pourmohammadi: 206,397"
All these numbers are divisible by 3. The probability of this happening is less than 0.5%
It appears that the numbers published are three times the actual numbers, and the turnout was 14%, not 42%.

This of course is only one small part of the edifice of lies and cruelty that underpin this theocracy. I am with the Iranian dissidents - burn it to the ground.

SidewaysOtter · 07/07/2024 17:27

I really hope so. The Iranian people deserve so much better than the Ayatollah and the fucking awful Morality Police.

It’s a beautiful country with amazingly friendly people. I hope this is the beginning of a more tolerant future.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 07/07/2024 18:38

Thanks for those stats, mirax.

mirax · 07/07/2024 18:55

There is absolutely nothing moderate about Pezeshkian, this is just propaganda from the Tehrani regime. In 1979 he was tasked with purging hospitals and universities, and imposed the mandatory hijab as one of his methods. He did this BEFORE Khomeini made it a nationwide law.This man was one of the enforcers of the mandatory hijab at the beginning of the revolution, focusing on Iranian universities and the Islamisation of these institutions. He has proudly admitted on Iranian television that he and his thugs went after women who didn't have hijab or "bad hijab" with knives and violence. Same rotten Islamist as the rest of them. We should all understand by now that there are no "reformists" in the Islamist regime, they're all misosgynist thugs. They came to power with violence, and they will disappear to the dustbins of history with violence when they fall. He has close ties to the IRGC and has called for violence when dealing with protests.

And yet western fools like John Simpson can simp for this guy with this tweet that is just disgusting beyond words.
https://twitter.com/JohnSimpsonNews/status/1809564563018235996

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https://twitter.com/JohnSimpsonNews/status/1809564563018235996

IwantToRetire · 07/07/2024 22:36

Honestly, how can anyone think we are that niave.

But if it means for the near future that women aren't forced to wear the hijab and have more opportunity to be part of society, WTF would anyone tell them, sorry its not good enough in revolutionary terms, so you cant have even that small measure of relief.

Talk about commenting from a position of privilege and safety.

Just the usually "revolutionary" purity cul de sac.

Women know your place.

Get to the back of the line.

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mirax · 07/07/2024 22:58

IwantToRetire · 07/07/2024 22:36

Honestly, how can anyone think we are that niave.

But if it means for the near future that women aren't forced to wear the hijab and have more opportunity to be part of society, WTF would anyone tell them, sorry its not good enough in revolutionary terms, so you cant have even that small measure of relief.

Talk about commenting from a position of privilege and safety.

Just the usually "revolutionary" purity cul de sac.

Women know your place.

Get to the back of the line.

I offered plenty of evidence that your media lies and that yes, you are completely ignorant of the history of this man and really, really that naive. What small measures of relief do you think this asshole who has a long history of happily and cruelly destroying women will grant them? WTF do you think you are compared to the majority of the Iranian population that refused to go through this charade of elections? Where is the privilege except in westerners deciding to accept lies at face value because it makes you feel better? What kinder, gentler politics is this man going to bring- less systematic rape of women in the prisons of Iran?

IwantToRetire · 07/07/2024 23:03

What kinder, gentler politics is this man going to bring- less systematic rape of women in the prisons of Iran?

Where have I or any of the articles quoted said he has promised this.

His offers are very limited.

It is clear.

But if if gives women in Iran some small relief on the issue of dress code, who are you or I to say they shouldn't have this?

Did I or any of the articles claim that his election was going to overthrow the regime?

No - so why are you trying to make out that this have been said?

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mirax · 08/07/2024 09:06

What exactly are the small reliefs he has actually promised for which you are optimistic enough to hail his election?
I take my cue from Iranian women and try not to sell them out by imposing my stupid western middleclass sensibities on their struggles. If the Iranians know this man is the Ayatollah's carefully selected mouthpiece to fool tbe world, who are you to gainsay them?

SidewaysOtter · 08/07/2024 10:45

Mirax, I don't think anyone is doubting that he is only - at the very best - the least worst option. The regime has an iron grip which they aren't going to loosen without a fight, they have too much to lose.

But it is something, a possible move towards a more free society. And yes, he has advocated, amongst other things, for the hijab to be a choice: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/06/iran-reformist-masoud-pezeshkian-extends-lead-in-presidential-election-count

Scolding people here isn't going to help anyone. You aren't the only one who knows Iranians.

Reformist Masoud Pezeshkian wins Iran presidential election

Victory reflects deep dissatisfaction with direction of country and could bring greater cooperation with west

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/06/iran-reformist-masoud-pezeshkian-extends-lead-in-presidential-election-count

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