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Jess Phillips MP harassed and threatened by angry men

199 replies

eatfigs · 05/07/2024 12:36

https://x.com/Channel4/status/1809092974438940817

The absolute state of this! Good on her and her colleagues for standing up to these horrible men and calling out their abusive behaviour.

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TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 19:45

Shortshriftandlethal · 05/07/2024 19:26

What was your question? It wasn't clear.

It was abundantly clear if you actually read the posts properly.

The poster was asking whether Jody McIntyre's behaviour ("attacking Jess for months") was "grounds for his immediate disqualification from the election".

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 19:47

TheColourOutOfSpace · 05/07/2024 16:21

The Left's sordid love affair with far-right Islamism is going to get messy 😬😬😬😬

Trans activists are lightweight bullies compared to the heavyweight champions when it comes to identity politics.

Yep. I fear he will lack the courage to deal with Radical Islam in the same way he has lacked the courage to deal with trans activists.

If he does not address extremism in all forms we are heading towards our own French election results in the next 5-10 years.

Shortshriftandlethal · 05/07/2024 19:57

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 19:45

It was abundantly clear if you actually read the posts properly.

The poster was asking whether Jody McIntyre's behaviour ("attacking Jess for months") was "grounds for his immediate disqualification from the election".

It wasn't clear, quite obviously, unless you are accusing me of wilful misunderstanding. As a teacher I know the importance of making things clear. If you don't do that you cannot help your pupils to understand your point, or the purpose of the task.

If the question related to Jody McIntyre then i suggest it should have immediately proceeded discussion of him, rather than come further down the post, seemingly in relation to Jess Phillips being a 'Friend of Israel'. The implication seemed to be that being a partisan 'friend' should have disqualified her in the first instance.

Whatever the case it wasn't entirely clear. I'm not sure why so aggressive a response?

OneSugar1 · 05/07/2024 20:00

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 17:51

Yes, look, workers party of britain is definitely a Muslim problem #sarcasm
https://workerspartybritain.org/ten-point-programme/

It's fkin angry white men, of a Farage ilk but different politics.

Well they sound like a Great Bunch of Lads
/s

Why in the name of ever living fuck did she have to ask for them to be removed? Why weren’t they removed automatically when they first started their donkey braying??

Neil Kinnock’s unbridled delight at Galloway losing his seat yesterday was a joy to watch if you haven’t seen it already 😊

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 20:09

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 19:32

He is some random white guy. "Being radicalised" doesn't suddenly change your heritage or how well known you are 😂

What exactly does skin colour have to do with it? It's allowed to be white and Muslim. Converts are often the most fanatical and dangerous.

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 20:25

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1809296058947707326?t=3LpRavzT8XoYy6Lrrwvukg&s=19

Jess talking about the campaign. Interesting that people were told that God will judge them if they vote a certain way - which is a criminal offence.

This kind of intimidation is a real problem and has to be dealt with. We are a secular democracy and there can be no compromise on that principle. The same with back door blasphemy laws and other hate speech laws.

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TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 20:32

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TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 20:32

It does have to be dealt with. Those men should have been removed from the building the second they started that behaviour.

It's misogyny, pure and simple.

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 20:53

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 20:09

What exactly does skin colour have to do with it? It's allowed to be white and Muslim. Converts are often the most fanatical and dangerous.

Read the post I was replying, it well help for context 🙄

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 20:56

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 20:25

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1809296058947707326?t=3LpRavzT8XoYy6Lrrwvukg&s=19

Jess talking about the campaign. Interesting that people were told that God will judge them if they vote a certain way - which is a criminal offence.

This kind of intimidation is a real problem and has to be dealt with. We are a secular democracy and there can be no compromise on that principle. The same with back door blasphemy laws and other hate speech laws.

I thought it was interesting she was talking about filming people to produce content to drive further conflict. Its a definite problem. One that features in all highly politicised/divisive debates. I'm not sure what society can do to counter it 😞

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 20:59

SquirrelSoShiny · 05/07/2024 19:47

Yep. I fear he will lack the courage to deal with Radical Islam in the same way he has lacked the courage to deal with trans activists.

If he does not address extremism in all forms we are heading towards our own French election results in the next 5-10 years.

Why is it that Reform/far right is seen as an understandable response to societal conflict, and the kind of behaviour seen in this video is seen as unacceptable and cultural?
To me it's two sides of the same coin. Shitty violent behaviour from angry disenfranchised men.
I don't think a crack down on "radical Islam" will make a jot of difference.

radiatorbed · 05/07/2024 21:20

I think that you will find that women voted Reform also.

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 21:22

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 20:59

Why is it that Reform/far right is seen as an understandable response to societal conflict, and the kind of behaviour seen in this video is seen as unacceptable and cultural?
To me it's two sides of the same coin. Shitty violent behaviour from angry disenfranchised men.
I don't think a crack down on "radical Islam" will make a jot of difference.

And you can give us examples of Reform/far right behaving in the same way at Parliamentary declarations?

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 21:25

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 21:22

And you can give us examples of Reform/far right behaving in the same way at Parliamentary declarations?

🙄

TheColourOutOfSpace · 05/07/2024 21:36

Shortshriftandlethal · 05/07/2024 19:57

It wasn't clear, quite obviously, unless you are accusing me of wilful misunderstanding. As a teacher I know the importance of making things clear. If you don't do that you cannot help your pupils to understand your point, or the purpose of the task.

If the question related to Jody McIntyre then i suggest it should have immediately proceeded discussion of him, rather than come further down the post, seemingly in relation to Jess Phillips being a 'Friend of Israel'. The implication seemed to be that being a partisan 'friend' should have disqualified her in the first instance.

Whatever the case it wasn't entirely clear. I'm not sure why so aggressive a response?

Edited

Wow. You're a strange one. 😳

Nevermind. I'm sure someone else will come along to answer my question. Thank you for your efforts.

illinivich · 05/07/2024 22:06

I understood your post, TheColourOutOfSpace.

From the UK Parliament site:
Who is disqualified from standing as an MP?
Certain groups of people are not allowed to stand, these include:

  1. members of the police forces
  2. members of the armed forces
  3. civil servants and judges
  4. people who are subject of a bankruptcy restrictions order in England or Wales or a debt relief restrictions order
  5. people who have been adjudged bankrupt in Northern Ireland
  6. people who have had their estate sequestrated in Scotland

Seems threatening other candidates doesn't disqualify anyone from standing.

If he was part of an established party, he would have been suspended. But being an independent, there's not much to stop him.

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 22:11

From CPS guidanceDisqualification Orders under the Elections Act 2022Part 5 of the Elections Act 2022 provides that where an adult is convicted of an offence specified in Schedule 9 of that Act, and the court is satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the offence was aggravated by hostility related to the status, or perceived status, of the victim being a candidate, elected office holder, or campaigner, it must (unless it considers it unjust in all the circumstances) impose a disqualification order disqualifying the person from standing for election, being elected to, and holding a relevant elected office for a period of 5 years.The specified offences include: offences against the person, sexual offences, criminal damage, public order act offences and malicious communications.This not an order for which prosecutors must apply but rather an order the court must make unless it is unjust in all the circumstances to do so. The disqualification will be imposed upon an offender at the point of sentence and will be in addition to any other punishment imposed.

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 22:17

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 22:11

From CPS guidanceDisqualification Orders under the Elections Act 2022Part 5 of the Elections Act 2022 provides that where an adult is convicted of an offence specified in Schedule 9 of that Act, and the court is satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the offence was aggravated by hostility related to the status, or perceived status, of the victim being a candidate, elected office holder, or campaigner, it must (unless it considers it unjust in all the circumstances) impose a disqualification order disqualifying the person from standing for election, being elected to, and holding a relevant elected office for a period of 5 years.The specified offences include: offences against the person, sexual offences, criminal damage, public order act offences and malicious communications.This not an order for which prosecutors must apply but rather an order the court must make unless it is unjust in all the circumstances to do so. The disqualification will be imposed upon an offender at the point of sentence and will be in addition to any other punishment imposed.

So being an obnoxious cunt with no regard for the democratic process is no good reason for disqualifying someone from holding elected office.

Good to know.

Imnobody4 · 05/07/2024 22:25

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9192/
Disqualification ordersThe Elections Act 2022 introduced a new penalty rather than creating a new offence. The penalty can be imposed for people convicted of existing intimidatory offences when the intimidation is directed at election candidates or campaigners during a referendum. It is designed to deter intimidatory behaviour during an election or referendum period.These are called disqualification orders and can be imposed in addition to any sentence resulting from a criminal conviction. A disqualification order disqualifies the person convicted from holding elected office for five years.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 22:29

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 22:17

So being an obnoxious cunt with no regard for the democratic process is no good reason for disqualifying someone from holding elected office.

Good to know.

Edited

I mean, Boris Johnson unlawfully prorogued parliament and carried right on as PM.

He showed about as little respect to our democracy and constitution as it's possible to do.

(Doesn't make it right, obviously.)

illinivich · 05/07/2024 22:33

A disqualification order disqualifies the person convicted from holding elected office for five years.

I suppose its difficult to convict within the election timescale. Hopefully, all those responsible will be disqualified for a few years.

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 22:35

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 05/07/2024 22:29

I mean, Boris Johnson unlawfully prorogued parliament and carried right on as PM.

He showed about as little respect to our democracy and constitution as it's possible to do.

(Doesn't make it right, obviously.)

And he finally withdrew ran away when he couldn't escape from due process.

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 22:35

illinivich · 05/07/2024 22:06

I understood your post, TheColourOutOfSpace.

From the UK Parliament site:
Who is disqualified from standing as an MP?
Certain groups of people are not allowed to stand, these include:

  1. members of the police forces
  2. members of the armed forces
  3. civil servants and judges
  4. people who are subject of a bankruptcy restrictions order in England or Wales or a debt relief restrictions order
  5. people who have been adjudged bankrupt in Northern Ireland
  6. people who have had their estate sequestrated in Scotland

Seems threatening other candidates doesn't disqualify anyone from standing.

If he was part of an established party, he would have been suspended. But being an independent, there's not much to stop him.

He wasn't independent. He was in Workers Party of Britain.

CassieMaddox · 05/07/2024 22:36

JanesLittleGirl · 05/07/2024 22:17

So being an obnoxious cunt with no regard for the democratic process is no good reason for disqualifying someone from holding elected office.

Good to know.

Edited

No. Because otherwise we wouldn't have had to suffer Johnson or Farage.

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