Reasons to be cheerful/not despair?

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Indulge me, I'm feeling a bit doomy this morning (and very sad to be so, because a few years ago I'd have been doing cartwheels about this result).

We're better off than we were five years ago, right?

We have the Cass Report.

We have Forstater and various other legal decisions, with more pending.

There's a conversation around the harms of medicalising confused children.

Gender ideology is more to the 'controversial' end of the scale than 'right side of history'.

No-one will ever unsee Isla Bryson.

What else? I know there's a long road ahead, but what other foundations do we have to stand on as we prepare to fight ALL OVER AGAIN?

Corbyn era elections were post-brexit vote and a lot of tactical voting was going on. I didn't see that as an endorsement of him particularly. Remainers were trying to change the balance in HoC to get a second referendum.

I have many TWIW friends on Facebook who are decidedly unenthusiastic about Kier being PM, due to him not standing up for trans women, allowing their existence be called into question, and Labour denying "healthcare" to trans children (their words, not mine!)

Not that I'm gloating in their disappointment in any way... I know what election despair is like very well. But the fact they're not rejoicing over this has given me a bit of hope.

He will be under a lot of pressure from within, as I said.

Ah dear old Isla played a blinder. A picture that changed history.

I’m feeling quite optimistic. It’s about time Labour fully expose themselves to scrutiny. They are no longer in opposition so they can no longer fudge and obfuscate, they will have to start being honest and open about what they stand for and what their policies actually mean.

We just need Kemi as the opposition leader. 🤞

Yes, I've seen this too. What seems from our perspective to be baby steps in the right direction probably looks to TRAs like full-on catastrophe.
But I'm not giving up on my prediction that faced with intractable major issues (economy, housing, defence/international situation, NHS) about which they can do relatively little, the new govt will press on in a socially liberal direction (decriminalisation of abortion, introduction of assisted dying, rowing back towards Self ID) to show their supporters they are doing something.

If it cheers anyone up, LOJ is having a meltdown on Xitter. Poor lamb.

I'm blocked, obvs. Screenshots would be much appreciated though 😁

Read an ok article in the Times today about KS life. What I noticed was a that a close friend who died was a keen LGBT supporter. I wonder if this was the reason for such a blinkered approach?

I'm feeling more and more confident actually.

I've recently met so many more women who are professionals and who are being more openly terfy. Who support Labour or greens or libdems. I've overheard conversations in public and at parties where "identifying as" is mocked.

A fellow parent I was chatting to recently, who I had no idea was terfy, (isn't an active terf at all, has never heard of KJK, WRN etc) made the point that why do such a small number of people are exerting such a big impact on 52 % of the population? And quite frankly she wants to know she can go into a changing room without a massive bloke. And completely understands about the porn/ fetish issue. And she told me about another local mum friend of hers who also agrees.

Those Labour MPs who understand the issues now have more ability to be public and not have to worry about risking their careers. I have been told that our local Labour mp who held her seat is quietly on side.

If the election did one thing, it was to make it a central part of the debates. We didn't have that last time.

We also have those brave nurses publicly making a huge stand in the north east.

I think that will be very impactful.
Even reading about it makes people think it through more.

Not on twitter/nutter but I would have thought he would be happy with Starmer getting in. What's he so upset about?

What's he so upset about?

Not a pure enough success for him. But if this is an indication of how the Left intends to treat a win built on low numbers etc, the very early initial signs are not good that they'll pull together to build on this and get a second term.

Never knowingly right, is LOJ.

Those Labour MPs who understand the issues now have more ability to be public and not have to worry about risking their careers. I have been told that our local Labour mp who held her seat is quietly on side.

I suspect my MP is the same but when I got in touch before the election and asked questions, I had to read between the lines of their reply to work that out.

And now they've been elected, I imagine they'll all start thinking about their parliamentary careers and whether they really want to stand up to the whips and jeopardise any chances of a cabinet post.

So I have no patience left for MPs who are quietly onside. Unless they start speaking up, they're not a lot of use.

Not on twitter/nutter but I would have thought he would be happy with Starmer getting in. What's he so upset about?

He hates Starmer.

Not much money because they're taking over the massive national debt and have already committed to sticking to Tory spending plans.

Also he feels abandoned by the Labour Centrists who he feels have been very mean to the vulnerable left and also Gaza.
He is congratulating himself on his campaign to get lefties to vote indy and the Green Party. He thinks it good that Labour have to worry about the left vote and not just the reform voters. Yawn yawn

I think the prospect of Kemi Badenoch as LOTO is a lot less terrifying than that of her as PM. As LOTO, she will ask pertinent questions and keep labour on their toes but I agree that much of her political stance is pretty hateful towards ordinary people.

Hopefully, the fact that the Lib Dems did very well darn sarf helps to dissuade the Tories from lurching to the right.

My labour MP who held her seat is onside with that gobshite from Jarrow, Kate Osborne. The only circumstance under which I would have voted for her would have been a real threat of Reform unseating her.

Well quite. What else can they do. Everyone will moan if they raise taxes of any kind so essentially they are hamstrung. That’s where growing the economy comes in I guess.

Bit premature. Give them a chance I say. They cannot be any worse than the previous lot.

How ? What evidence ? You’re making quite a few groundless predictions which I think you did yesterday about the size of Labours win.

It doesn't really matter the colour of the party in power. We have seen everywhere it's the lobbying groups who are the problem with the indoctrinated civil servants.

We've had years of Stonewalled civil servants leaking material to ITV's Paul Brand about the failure to implement "Conversion Therapy" ban.

Labour will want to be seen as being nice and will likely wave through the pre-made (written by civil servants and lobbyists) legislation.