First Lesbian space at Glastonbury

[Whatthechicken]

Feeling quite worried and angry this morning and then see this.

https://x.com/bindelj/status/1807350097883128222

Man in the centre trying to hide his predatory smirk, man to the right noticing he's just been caught.

Ah a lesbian Space with men in it

but of course

Why do men have the need to invade women's spaces?

If I were somewhere and saw a gay men's space I wouldn't even think to enter it. It wouldn't even cross my mind.

I'd immediately think. Not for me.

These men don't look trans, maybe they're just stupid or completely arrogant?

Imagine if Labour's plan does indeed enable 'legal women' to enter single-sex facilities. We won't be able know if they have a GRC. I would think every entitled man, abuser and misogynist will realise that too.

I believe the article named it a lesbian space but it was not intended as such. Don't think it warrants outrage.

Exactly.

The rainbow brigade would argue these man could be 100% women. You just can't tell by looks alone after all 🙄

Well given that there were men in the film, the reporter (I believe it was the BBC) should have double checked before broadcasting who the space was intended for. They got the notion it was a Lesbian space from someone.

https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/the-scissors-2024-line-up-poster-has-arrived/

"Discover new Park gem, Scissors! An utterly delicious femme-queer venue where you can get a haircut, chill in the beer garden or catch a movie in Flick Shack. With nightfall comes a twilight roster filling Kiki’s nightclub, where kaleidoscopic walls keep you dancing til dawn."

Yeah the BBC got it wrong, it's "femme-queer", whatever that means.

It’s called Scissors and is termed a queer space, not lesbian-only. A friend of mine visited - he’s a gay man and went with a mutual lesbian friend of ours, they wanted to see Sophie Ellis Bextor. He wasn’t invading anyone’s space…

It's just a space then.

https://web.jakeldn.com/glastonbury-2024-introduces-lesbian-scissors-tent/

from the Glastonbury website

its a complete nonsense frankly with thrm trumpeting it being a “revolutionary lesbian space”

but later “The space aims to provide a safe and inclusive environment for the LGBTQ+ community.”

so a space for anyone really then

I'm all for single sex spaces however I've read online that this space is open to lesbian friends and 'allies' (men or women).

I don't know if 100% of their lesbian clientele would agree but it seems difficult to enforce unless they make it lesbian-only or even women-only. A 'progressive' festival like Glastonbury isn't going to risk excluding NB, trans etc due to negative publicity unfortunately.

It's a shame women can't have anything of their own. I feel like in the Green Fields of old it would be lesbians only (of the biological woman variety 🙄) and no nonsense would be tolerated. I think this venue is in The Park (a popular, busy area) and it's inclusive of course.

I take slight pause in that heterosexual women have been going to gay bars and clubs for decades, either with their gay friends or as a safer venue to avoid the attention of heterosexual men. I'm not sure men need to be in a lesbian venue for the same reasons. If you're a man enjoying the festival with a lesbian friend I guess it would be crap to have to separate and not enjoy a drink and a sit down together. On the other hand as an adult you might think 'is my presence welcome?' and go to literally any other venue instead. Then again the lesbian misses out unless they want to go in alone (always an option), festivals are generally.

I imagine there's a fair few straight women in there as well as various letters of the alphabet that aren't L.

I am not a lesbian but ffs.

“Why do men have the need to invade women's spaces?
If I were somewhere and saw a gay men's space I wouldn't even think to enter it. It wouldn't even cross my mind.
I'd immediately think. Not for me.”

You are right of course, but sometimes spaces are for gay men and friends, or lesbians and allies, etc.
Ive been to plenty of gay nights in Brighton that were half full of heterosexual women - they like the clubs as they get far less harassment. Most of the gay men seemed happy to have them, though not all.
I’ve spent some of the best nights of my life in lesbian bars, and it didn’t seem to upset anyone.
Of course it there is a strict policy then nobody should ignore boundaries, but it seems that was not the case here.

There has been some very interesting and thoughtful comments. The article on Glastonbury website calls it a Revolutionary Lesbian Space, and that’s why it was reported as such. Further down the article, it is clear that it was meant to be inclusive - which is fine, but then they shouldn’t have called it what they did. So it boils back down to language again doesn’t it.

So it boils back down to language again doesn’t it.

It does. I wouldn’t go in a space labelled for lesbians because I would presume they wouldn’t want the place clogged up with het tourists. Not For Me.

i would happily accept a specific het tourist invite though because I’m at the age/stage in life where socialising in a woman only space sounds like a brilliant night out.

Sorry that should've said 'festivals are generally friendly places to strike up a conversation, especially woman to woman'.

Not sure where the rest of my sentence went and took late to edit!