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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Letter what I wrote to candidate

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CherryAustin · 28/06/2024 23:51

Changed to my real name. I don't know this candidate (Labour) and there's nothing online about his views. I'm not expecting much of a reply, if any. But since this is something of a Beginner's Guide, I thought it may be useful in some way to others.

51% of the electorate belongs to the female reproductive category of our species. We are known as women, in the same way as female sheep are called ewes and female deer are does. A female is one whose physiology is organised to produce large gametes (ova) and never to produce small gametes (sperm). In mammals, the female's body is organised to gestate live young. Female mammals tend to be smaller than males, with weaker musculature among other significant differences.

Among humans, the difference in size and strength has led to societies becoming dominated by males (called men in our species). As a result of this single-sex domination, the word 'man' became interchangeable with 'human' or 'person'; women were seen as lesser or faulty men, and our ability to gestate viewed as a vulnerability requiring male control. We have spent more than a hundred years fighting to be legally recognised as people, to be valued as fully human, for economic independence and for the protections necessitated by our physical differences from men.

While this battle is still incomplete, it's great that we now have recourse to the Equality Act 2010 and its protections from discrimination on the grounds of sex or maternity. I am deeply worried by recent tendencies to reimagine sex as 'gender identity' - a characteristic which is impossible to define and cannot be objectively verified. It should be obvious that a woman is a biological female: for, if not, a woman may be a male and the meaning of the word 'sex' is lost. With that, women no longer have discrimination protection. Without a meaning for 'sex', we cannot identify sexism. Woman simply becomes another word for man, and we're back to the bad old days when legitimate persons were assumed to be male.

This may seem a bit hyperbolic if you haven't yet given much thought to the matter. I assure you it is not. We've already seen numerous cases of women and girls being forced to welcome a penis into their intimate spaces on the pretext that a penis may be female, the women and girls' consent being mandated not sought. Women have been raped in prisons and hospitals by men who, upon calling themselves women, have been housed alongside female patients and inmates. Hundreds of sexual assaults have been perpetrated by men who gained access to women and girls by calling themselves women. Men have gained jobs, awards, grants and other opportunities that were reserved for women. Girls and women are being forced to compete with men in sports where, unsurprisingly, they're overwhelmed by the more powerful male physique. Employers are evading maternity discrimination and equal opportunities requirements by preferring men who call themselves women.

This is a matter of existential gravity for women and girls. Before next week's vote, can you assure me that you understand 'gender identity' is not sex, and that you will do what it takes to protect the rights, freedoms, safety and dignity of women?

The final question could have been more punchy!

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saraclara · 29/06/2024 00:32

Are you channeling Ernie Wise?

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/06/2024 00:34

It's worth a try OP; I hope you receive a serious answer to your question.

CherryAustin · 29/06/2024 00:39

saraclara · 29/06/2024 00:32

Are you channeling Ernie Wise?

Oh, god, what have I done?

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quantumbutterfly · 29/06/2024 00:43

I think that's an excellent summary op.

Hyperions · 29/06/2024 00:44

It's a fab letter and I liked your title, have a light hearted picture to counter the depressing effects of the erosion of women's rights

Hyperions · 29/06/2024 00:44

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CherryAustin · 29/06/2024 00:50

Thank you, that's definitely cheered me up, @Hyperions 😂 Bring me sunshine (and common sense!)

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Ihavesomeideas · 29/06/2024 01:10

Hyperbolic is definitely the right word.

Hyperions · 29/06/2024 01:17

Ihavesomeideas · 29/06/2024 01:10

Hyperbolic is definitely the right word.

She's speaking the truth here, it's facts not hyperbole

eatfigs · 29/06/2024 01:26

I like your last two paragraphs most of all. A good summary of how this abusive sexist ideology has harmed women and girls under the guise of progress.

Datun · 29/06/2024 05:15

That's a good letter. I worry it will fall on deaf ears. But that's no reason not to send it.

Good luck, op.

PartOfTheFurniture12 · 29/06/2024 06:29

I would remove the part about the origin of the word man as this is incorrect and will harm your overall argument.

"Man derives from Proto-Germanic and it meant literally “person”, that is, it could refer to both man and woman. Woman, on the other hand, derives from Wif or wifman. What was used to refer to man with its sense of today is wer or werman. That this hits the right spot is confirmed by the survival of wer in werewolf (literally man-wolf)."

https://thelanguagenerds.com/2019/why-does-woman-have-man-in-it-and-female-has-the-word-male-in-it/

I would just cut it out rather than replace it with another example, it's unnecessary padding.

Why does woman have ‘man’ in it and female has the word ‘male’ in it?

It's hysterical when people incorrectly assume the origins of words. What’s even more hysterical is when you find out that you are one of them. That’s what happened to me when I came across the

https://thelanguagenerds.com/2019/why-does-woman-have-man-in-it-and-female-has-the-word-male-in-it

Ihavesomeideas · 29/06/2024 11:40

Hyperbolic was being kind. I have a degree in English,Sociological and Political Science, a post grad in Teaching ,and a Paediatric Nursing degree. I am currently employed as a Professor in Paediatrics. Married for 30 years with 3 grown up children. I would never write a letter implying it should be used as a template .

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/06/2024 11:43

saraclara · 29/06/2024 00:32

Are you channeling Ernie Wise?

😊

WickedSerious · 29/06/2024 12:04

Ihavesomeideas · 29/06/2024 11:40

Hyperbolic was being kind. I have a degree in English,Sociological and Political Science, a post grad in Teaching ,and a Paediatric Nursing degree. I am currently employed as a Professor in Paediatrics. Married for 30 years with 3 grown up children. I would never write a letter implying it should be used as a template .

User name checks out.

quantumbutterfly · 29/06/2024 12:45

WickedSerious · 29/06/2024 12:04

User name checks out.

It's the internet, who knows?

CherryAustin · 29/06/2024 16:05

I didn't say it was the origin of the word 'man', @PartOfTheFurniture12, I already knew. I was trying to compress patriarchy into a couple of sentences without using the word or 'default human'.

I'm not suggesting my letter be used as a template! Tbh, if these are the best criticisms the neggers of Mumsnet can come up with, I've done a better job than I thought. Thank you 🙂

I'll still be surprised if he answers, mind you.

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camperjam · 29/06/2024 16:08

Thanks, I'm trying to work out what to email my local labour candidate. We've always been a blue constituency but labour seems to have a chance here.

I have no idea where to start though

CherryAustin · 29/06/2024 16:28

It's tricky, isn't it, @camperjam. There's such a muddle of circular logic and trigger words, it's easier to write transactivist jargon than to refute it.

I liked JanefromLondon1's question to Keir Starmer:
"Can you say now that you will not allow biological men, under any guise, to come into women's safe spaces?"

Good luck! It must be better to do it than not.

I'm asking Keir a question about women's rights on 5 live - how to phrase it? | Mumsnet

I want him not to be able to give me the flannel that we have to be kind to the woMen. I want assurances that we do t have to share our spaces. I want...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/5107115-im-m-asking-kier-a-question-about-womens-rights-on-5-live-how-to-phrase-it

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thecatneuterer · 29/06/2024 16:29

saraclara · 29/06/2024 00:32

Are you channeling Ernie Wise?

Lol. That was my first thought too

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