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Guardian review of Sexed

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CrossPurposes · 26/06/2024 14:59

Fiona Sturges of the Guardian reviews Susanna Rustin's look at British feminism. It's "mostly even-handed" because Rustin doesn't seem to be particularly interested in feminists who think transwomen are women.

Sexed by Susanna Rustin review – a new history of British feminism https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jun/26/sexed-by-susanna-rustin-review-a-new-history-of-british-feminism?CMP=share_btn_url

Sexed by Susanna Rustin review – a new history of British feminism

The Guardian writer offers a mostly even-handed account of the successes, failures and faultlines within the feminist movement

https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jun/26/sexed-by-susanna-rustin-review-a-new-history-of-british-feminism?CMP=share_btn_url

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DexaVooveQhodu · 26/06/2024 15:06

Nice

It's good to have this review, amd for it to be respecting the position of the author.

I did wonder at That she documents the grim intimidation and threats against gender-critical activists while not mentioning the hate crimes against transgender people, which last year reached a record high in England and Wales, seems a more unfortunate omission. - this is a history of feminism and the hate crimes against transgender people are not part of the history of feminism. They were not perpetrated by feminists. They were generally perpetrated by violent men. That is a tragedy but not one that has anything to do with this book.

CantDealwithChristmas · 26/06/2024 15:13

DexaVooveQhodu · 26/06/2024 15:06

Nice

It's good to have this review, amd for it to be respecting the position of the author.

I did wonder at That she documents the grim intimidation and threats against gender-critical activists while not mentioning the hate crimes against transgender people, which last year reached a record high in England and Wales, seems a more unfortunate omission. - this is a history of feminism and the hate crimes against transgender people are not part of the history of feminism. They were not perpetrated by feminists. They were generally perpetrated by violent men. That is a tragedy but not one that has anything to do with this book.

A record high? What was that then - one incident? Two? LOL. 2 women in the UK get killed PER WEEK by their intimate partner.

Although I suppose the Guardian thinks that correctly sexing India Willoughby consistutes a hate crime.

WickedSerious · 26/06/2024 15:19

DexaVooveQhodu · 26/06/2024 15:06

Nice

It's good to have this review, amd for it to be respecting the position of the author.

I did wonder at That she documents the grim intimidation and threats against gender-critical activists while not mentioning the hate crimes against transgender people, which last year reached a record high in England and Wales, seems a more unfortunate omission. - this is a history of feminism and the hate crimes against transgender people are not part of the history of feminism. They were not perpetrated by feminists. They were generally perpetrated by violent men. That is a tragedy but not one that has anything to do with this book.

'A record high' is it?

I'm surprised they kept that quiet.

wrens23498 · 26/06/2024 15:23

DexaVooveQhodu · 26/06/2024 15:06

Nice

It's good to have this review, amd for it to be respecting the position of the author.

I did wonder at That she documents the grim intimidation and threats against gender-critical activists while not mentioning the hate crimes against transgender people, which last year reached a record high in England and Wales, seems a more unfortunate omission. - this is a history of feminism and the hate crimes against transgender people are not part of the history of feminism. They were not perpetrated by feminists. They were generally perpetrated by violent men. That is a tragedy but not one that has anything to do with this book.

The big omission in that statement: hate crime against GC feminists are by TRAs, whereas hate crime against transgender people are NOT by GC feminists. Unless, you equate a woman voicing her opinion as a hate crime.

wrens23498 · 26/06/2024 15:23

WickedSerious · 26/06/2024 15:19

'A record high' is it?

I'm surprised they kept that quiet.

Social genocide remember

WickedSerious · 26/06/2024 15:27

wrens23498 · 26/06/2024 15:23

Social genocide remember

Social genocide,literal violence,denial of their existence;they'll be extinct by Sunday.

DexaVooveQhodu · 26/06/2024 15:37

Hate crimes are e.g. a trans person being violently assaulted etc and every one is a tragedy.

GC feminists having opinions, saying mean words and refusing to shut up when told to by their superiors (men) are only logged as "non crime hate incidents" aren't they?

Britinme · 26/06/2024 15:51

Irritating but predictable that the Guardian doesn't allow comments on that article.

IWilloBeACervix · 26/06/2024 15:59

Hate crimes have to be at a record high, so they can justify expanding hate crime law. How else will they silence the populace into appearing like they agree with them?

IwantToRetire · 26/06/2024 16:14

Guardian reviews Guardian employee's book - not acknowledged in review.

I've heard it is pretty average, and seems more aimed at those who cant be bothered to read up on women's rights activism, let alone take part!

Always wary of books that claim to have the definitive history of women. Even to suggest the Southall Black Sisters in not well known reflects this is another exercise by media feminists.

Anyone who is interested there is a book launch hosted by FiLia. £20 entry fee which sort of indicates the market this is aimed at.

https://www.tickettailor.com/events/filia1/1273096

But am willing to have my opinions over turned by anyone who has or does read the book.

The usual suspect of speakers who aren't exactly front line ativists with the exception of one.

Sorry if I sound a bit jaded but what a piss take for the Guardian to review this but totally fail as a newspaper to provide acccurate reporting of current women's issue.

What used to be called coffee table feminism.

RoyalCorgi · 26/06/2024 16:19

Sturges is hopeless - fully bought into the TWAW line. I'm quite shocked that they asked her, rather than someone more sympathetic, to review Rustin's book - Rustin is, after all, quite senior at the Guardian. I expect the books editor is someone on the other side of the debate.

The sentence "That she documents the grim intimidation and threats against gender-critical activists while not mentioning the hate crimes against transgender people, which last year reached a record high in England and Wales, seems a more unfortunate omission" is particularly stupid because gender-critical feminists aren't going around committing hate crimes against transgender people. If these hate crimes are being committed in large numbers (which I doubt, frankly), they're almost certainly being committed by men.

teawamutu · 26/06/2024 22:19

wrens23498 · 26/06/2024 15:23

The big omission in that statement: hate crime against GC feminists are by TRAs, whereas hate crime against transgender people are NOT by GC feminists. Unless, you equate a woman voicing her opinion as a hate crime.

That is exactly how the Guardian appears to define it.

By contrast, rape and death threats by TRAs to women are expressions of anger and repression from the most marginalised and vulnerable people burble burble something Judith Butler JUDITH BUTLER.

(Yes, I have recently re-read The Annals of the Terf Wars.)

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Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 01/07/2024 10:25

IWilloBeACervix · 26/06/2024 15:59

Hate crimes have to be at a record high, so they can justify expanding hate crime law. How else will they silence the populace into appearing like they agree with them?

Exactly.

viques · 01/07/2024 10:30

Those wicked wicked little stickers and pretty ribbons. Honestly, how can anyone live with themselves when they know the agony and tears they cause?

Thats a rhetorical question btw.😁

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