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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fawcett Society confirms that men can be women

26 replies

Abeona · 25/06/2024 16:36

Just that really. Fawcett rep confirms that 'women' is inclusive of people who are male. Is there any point in trying to discuss why these women are selling women out?

https://twitter.com/berkhamstead/status/1805615680454115477

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https://twitter.com/berk_hamstead/status/1805615680454115477

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DuesToTheDirt · 25/06/2024 17:02

This more this debate goes on, the more I want to tell people to Fuck Off.

endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2024 17:06

"There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."

Madeleine Albright.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/06/2024 17:13

From their Twitter bio:

'UK’s leading charity campaigning for gender equality and women’s rights. Our aim is a society where your gender does not limit your life chances. Join us!'

Meaningless bollocks.

Basically they are now a charity campaigning for the rights of any Tom, Dick or Harry, rather than women's rights which is why they were set up.
M G Fawcett must be spinning in her grave FFS.

DeeplyMovingExperience · 25/06/2024 17:17

It doesn't matter what anyone (or any organisation) says. The fact remains that humans cannot change sex, and men can never be women.

As usual, it will be left to us women to defend our hard-won sex-based rights.

Abeona · 25/06/2024 17:37

It hurts particularly that the man in the room asks whether it's a sensible thing to accept self-ID as a sensible way of proceeding or do they want to focus on sex, and the women all trot out 'inclusiveness' and not letting patriarchy define what a woman is. I really want all those women sent to Afghanistan or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia for a year, so they have to face up to the kind of reality half the world's women face. This is such a luxury belief and these women are the spoiled, smug face of liberal feminism.

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JanesLittleGirl · 25/06/2024 17:41

endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2024 17:06

"There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women."

Madeleine Albright.

Well there was but now it's full of transwomen.

UtopiaPlanitia · 26/06/2024 00:19
God Help Me Season 6 GIF by Parks and Recreation

In current year, I am so very unsurprised by the Fawcett Society spouting nonsense like this

myotherdogisadonkey · 26/06/2024 02:01

@DuesToTheDirt I'm the same. I don't even have anyone to say fuck off to really as my DH and my grown up children dont really deserve it. My dog certainly doesn't. Wouldn't want to do it at the places I volunteer as I love the people. These women are so up their own backsides. What is the point of them, ffs? 🤬They are so utterly useless and they could use their voice to help women.

mach2 · 26/06/2024 06:24

A woman doesn't want to define what a woman is because the patriarchy has been doing that for long enough?

Has postmodernism softened their brains?

BreatheAndFocus · 26/06/2024 06:30

DuesToTheDirt · 25/06/2024 17:02

This more this debate goes on, the more I want to tell people to Fuck Off.

Me too! I rarely post on Twitter now because I’ve had enough and all I would be writing is some variation of “Fuck off”.

DialSquare · 26/06/2024 06:38

not letting patriarchy define what a woman is

But any man who says he's a woman, is one? Can they hear themselves?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 26/06/2024 06:48

Altogether ladies:

“Oh no they can’t….”

mach2 · 26/06/2024 07:04

Who's funding Fawcett? Is it time to turn the taps off?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 26/06/2024 08:02

BREAKING NEWS

Fawcett society confirms

  1. Father Christmas is real and he's coming for yooouuu on 24 December
  2. Babies delivered by storks - check that gooseberry bush!
  3. When you wish upon a star your dreams really do come true
SquirrelSoShiny · 26/06/2024 08:08

God it really is pathetic.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 26/06/2024 09:30

JanesLittleGirl · 25/06/2024 17:41

Well there was but now it's full of transwomen.

😂

MistyGreenAndBlue · 26/06/2024 09:32

DialSquare · 26/06/2024 06:38

not letting patriarchy define what a woman is

But any man who says he's a woman, is one? Can they hear themselves?

Someone needs to tell them that transwomen ARE the bloody patriarchy.

What an absolutely meaningless statement!

Absolutelyfractious · 26/06/2024 11:53

Makes my blood boil because in saying Men can be Women, then it must follow that Women can be Men.

If women can be Men, why don't all women who are living in unimaginable & subjugated conditions entirely due to their sex, like in Afghanistan, simply become men?

Fawcett purports to be a serious organisation and yet it capitulates at the knee of non-sensical gender ideology. An ideology that only serves men best.

CoalHouseDoor · 26/06/2024 12:23

They used to do seriously good work on the gender pay gap.

I asked at a conference about seven years ago, how they collated and interpreted pay data from men who wanted us to think they were women.

The chair asked me to leave.

UtopiaPlanitia · 26/06/2024 12:41

CoalHouseDoor · 26/06/2024 12:23

They used to do seriously good work on the gender pay gap.

I asked at a conference about seven years ago, how they collated and interpreted pay data from men who wanted us to think they were women.

The chair asked me to leave.

To quote Corporal Jones, ’They don’t like it up ’em’.

Your perceptive and intelligent question obviously caused cognitive dissonance and thus they felt uncomfortable, so rather than deal with that dissonance they asked you to leave 🙄🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

AyeRobot · 26/06/2024 12:43

That's been their stance for over 10 years - it was what made me realise just what a problem we had.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 26/06/2024 15:25

Who was the splendid former Chair who spoke up at a time when the interim Chair went on a blocking spree and declined to discuss some relevant matters with Maya Forstater or Fair Play for Women?

Blocking discussed here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/4231025-Maya-Forstater-s-appeal-discussion-thread-2?reply=107024764&

Ayesha Hazarika (not the former Chair I had in mind)' cherishing the presence of TW in a menopause group and their world class accessorising' here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/4272328-Why-I-am-not-applying-for-the-Fawcett-Society-CEO-job-Maya-Forstater

Embarrassed I can't recall the name of the former chair.

Page 10 | Maya Forstater’s appeal - discussion thread 2 | Mumsnet

I see the last thread filled up, but there might still be enough to discuss as a round up of the afternoon’s events to keep going into a second thread...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4231025-Maya-Forstater-s-appeal-discussion-thread-2?reply=107024764

Easytospot · 26/06/2024 16:09

'I'm not interested in defining what a woman is: the patriarchy has been doing that for long enough.' (smug smiles, thinks she has been Very Clever).

How can you be that thick?! Seriously, that is a really, really thick thing to say.

No, hard of thinking person who we apparently can't identify as a woman. What you are doing is compounding sexist stereotypes with being a woman. Sexist stereotypes have been imposed onto women by the patriarchy. But women actually objectively exist independently of sexist stereotypes.

The patriarchy was able to impose sexist stereotypes onto women precisely because it was easy for the patriarchy to identify which half of the population were women. They could not have imposed sexist stereotypes onto women if women did not objectively exist independently of the sexist stereotypes.

Or does she think the Patriarchy, just randomly imposed sexist stereotypes onto half of the human population and those people became women? Is she really that ontologically confused?

Was she from the Fawcett society? Shameful lack of analytical and critical thinking.

Her comment is such a classic example of the thought termination needed to follow this ridiculous ideology.

Notaflippinclue · 26/06/2024 16:31

Fawcett society campaigning for gender equality and Womens rights - pwahahaha pull the other one - who actually donates to this ridiculous charity, Lord help us

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