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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

East Wiltshire Labour Candidate

12 replies

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:27

I had a mail merge in my inbox asking for my vote for Labour yesterday. I replied back with some questions to the candidate Rob Newman:

As you're taking advantage of my email address to gain my vote, feel free to get back to me with your answers on the following:

As you are so keen to devote your time to advisory councils for women.....What is the definition of a woman?

Do women have a penis?

Should male bodied offenders who feel the need to change gender after or during sentencing be housed in the female estate?

Should children be allowed puberty blockers following a diagnosis of gender dyphoria?

Should men who identify as women be allowed to participate in womens sports?

Is JK Rowling transphobic?

Is it transphobic to say that Lesbians have a sexual preference for females?

Does Rosie Duffield have your support?

As I've received a response I thought I'd share it in case any women thinking on the same topics in the constituency haven't garnered his opinions yet.

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Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:29

Hello and thanks very much for following up with questions on this. I've tried to respond via email rather than Twitter on this because I think it doesn't lend itself very well to a 140-character reply.

I think that the discussion around trans people and trans rights has been deeply unhelpful over the past couple of years, and I think it's caused real distress to trans people and worry for cisgender women. I think we could do with a bit more empathy in this, as well as many other, debates, although I acknowledge the huge strength of feeling.

I am very conscious that my internal gender identity aligns with the body into which I was born, and that that is not the case for some people in our society. For those adults with gender dysphoria, or whose internal and external life does not exactly align, I think there should be support which enables them to live as the gender identity that is their own. I think that the process of gender recognition is over-medicalised, and that the suggestion from some of trans people being predatory carries deeply uncomfortable echoes of the 'gay scares' of the 1980s.

My view is that where children and young people are questioning their gender identity, then they should be properly listened to, and supported to work through that process. I thought that the recent Cass review was an important one about what that should look like in practice, including about puberty blockers.

I know that much of this has become mixed up with what questions such as 'can you define a woman', and I have been asked this myself by a fair few voters. My answer is that a woman is an adult human female; but that does not presuppose that the rights of trans women do not exist or are in conflict. My view from the conversations I have had is that there is a great deal of acceptance and tolerance in the community which is not reflected in the harsh, culture war-driven 'debate' which has been had. The way in which some politicians have weaponised the issues is, I think, deeply divisive.

There will be issues to work through in public services - in health, or the criminal justice system - but I cannot believe that it is impossible to find solutions that compromise neither women's spaces or trans rights. I do think that trans only wards in prisons, or in healthcare settings, for example, would be sensible.

As a gay man myself, I do feel a sense of solidarity both with trans people in their fight for equality, and with women in theirs, both of which are unfinished journeys. I'm determined if elected to be the sort of politician who stands up for equality and against discrimination, and being the best kind of representative for the whole community that I can be. Keir Starmer was asked a question about this (and about Rosie Duffield) during the four-way leaders' question time on the BBC this week and I thought that his answer both acknowledged that Labour hasn't necessarily got this right in the past, and that there is a need to detoxify our politics so that we can find solutions.

I hope that this goes some way towards explaining my position - apologies for the length of the reply. It's a matter of note to me that all the main candidates for East Wiltshire MP are men this time around, and I'm determined both to be an ally and to ensure that there are mechanisms in place (such as the women's advisory council you mentioned) whereby I'm enabling and elevating women's voices.

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Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:30

Second post is his response just for clarity.

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TheBunyip · 21/06/2024 15:31

well it's him or danny kruger who is a religious fanatic who demonises abortion, so tyour very specific, and slightly odd questions are small matters in an true blue Tory area that has been represented by one of BoJo's mates who's never been here for the last however long

i genuinely excited by the polls and i doubt Rob Newman gives much consideration to J K Rowlings tweets - and that's fine by me

BackToLurk · 21/06/2024 15:32

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:29

Hello and thanks very much for following up with questions on this. I've tried to respond via email rather than Twitter on this because I think it doesn't lend itself very well to a 140-character reply.

I think that the discussion around trans people and trans rights has been deeply unhelpful over the past couple of years, and I think it's caused real distress to trans people and worry for cisgender women. I think we could do with a bit more empathy in this, as well as many other, debates, although I acknowledge the huge strength of feeling.

I am very conscious that my internal gender identity aligns with the body into which I was born, and that that is not the case for some people in our society. For those adults with gender dysphoria, or whose internal and external life does not exactly align, I think there should be support which enables them to live as the gender identity that is their own. I think that the process of gender recognition is over-medicalised, and that the suggestion from some of trans people being predatory carries deeply uncomfortable echoes of the 'gay scares' of the 1980s.

My view is that where children and young people are questioning their gender identity, then they should be properly listened to, and supported to work through that process. I thought that the recent Cass review was an important one about what that should look like in practice, including about puberty blockers.

I know that much of this has become mixed up with what questions such as 'can you define a woman', and I have been asked this myself by a fair few voters. My answer is that a woman is an adult human female; but that does not presuppose that the rights of trans women do not exist or are in conflict. My view from the conversations I have had is that there is a great deal of acceptance and tolerance in the community which is not reflected in the harsh, culture war-driven 'debate' which has been had. The way in which some politicians have weaponised the issues is, I think, deeply divisive.

There will be issues to work through in public services - in health, or the criminal justice system - but I cannot believe that it is impossible to find solutions that compromise neither women's spaces or trans rights. I do think that trans only wards in prisons, or in healthcare settings, for example, would be sensible.

As a gay man myself, I do feel a sense of solidarity both with trans people in their fight for equality, and with women in theirs, both of which are unfinished journeys. I'm determined if elected to be the sort of politician who stands up for equality and against discrimination, and being the best kind of representative for the whole community that I can be. Keir Starmer was asked a question about this (and about Rosie Duffield) during the four-way leaders' question time on the BBC this week and I thought that his answer both acknowledged that Labour hasn't necessarily got this right in the past, and that there is a need to detoxify our politics so that we can find solutions.

I hope that this goes some way towards explaining my position - apologies for the length of the reply. It's a matter of note to me that all the main candidates for East Wiltshire MP are men this time around, and I'm determined both to be an ally and to ensure that there are mechanisms in place (such as the women's advisory council you mentioned) whereby I'm enabling and elevating women's voices.

He was funnier when he was with David Baddiel

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:47

@TheBunyip im entitled to ask any candidate requesting my vote whatever questions I want when I see vagueness in the manifesto.

If you think protections around womens sports and safety in spaces such as prisons is odd then that's up to you, and I'm sure he'll be pleased to receive your vote.

JK Rowling, in 2008 donated 1 million to the Labour Party, and as a previous life long Labour voter I'm interested in views on her now. More importantly I'm interested in the support of Rosie Duffield within the party. A topic skirted around by him, and Keir Starmer, who preferred to take the opinion of Tony Blair, a man, on the subject this week.

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EasternStandard · 21/06/2024 15:51

I know that much of this has become mixed up with what questions such as 'can you define a woman', and I have been asked this myself by a fair few voters. My answer is that a woman is an adult human female; but that does not presuppose that the rights of trans women do not exist or are in conflict.

What does this actually mean when it comes to men in women’s spaces or sports?

duc748 · 21/06/2024 15:54

Here's a tip, Rob: I don't think using the term 'cisgender women' is going to endear you to female voters.

blackcherryconserve · 21/06/2024 16:06

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 15:47

@TheBunyip im entitled to ask any candidate requesting my vote whatever questions I want when I see vagueness in the manifesto.

If you think protections around womens sports and safety in spaces such as prisons is odd then that's up to you, and I'm sure he'll be pleased to receive your vote.

JK Rowling, in 2008 donated 1 million to the Labour Party, and as a previous life long Labour voter I'm interested in views on her now. More importantly I'm interested in the support of Rosie Duffield within the party. A topic skirted around by him, and Keir Starmer, who preferred to take the opinion of Tony Blair, a man, on the subject this week.

I couldn't believe that Starmer came out with this bizarre comment referring to Tony Blair . And just what has he got against Rosie FFS?

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 16:06

duc748 · 21/06/2024 15:54

Here's a tip, Rob: I don't think using the term 'cisgender women' is going to endear you to female voters.

Interesting that he's been asked for the definition of a woman by several constituents so far. I wonder if he used the cis descriptor in his explanation.

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EasternStandard · 21/06/2024 16:08

I don’t get how he can say the two things in the para I bolded below

It’s just two sound bites mashed together

Can anyone say how that actually works?
Who has access where?

Whatineed · 21/06/2024 16:17

EasternStandard · 21/06/2024 16:08

I don’t get how he can say the two things in the para I bolded below

It’s just two sound bites mashed together

Can anyone say how that actually works?
Who has access where?

It's pretty unclear. I'm none the wiser.

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JellySaurus · 21/06/2024 16:59

I am very conscious that my internal gender identity aligns with the body into which I was born, and that that is not the case for some people in our society. For those adults with gender dysphoria, or whose internal and external life does not exactly align, I think there should be support which enables them to live as the gender identity that is their own.

How very unaware.

I am very conscious that my sex is male, and that that is not the case for some people in our society. For those who are female, I think there should be support which enables them to live with the same respect for their needs and wants that males have.

He's not quite getting it. Though at least he's not out-and-out dismissive of the rights of women.

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