Schools - any sense the trend is waning?

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My dc are long past school age. And pretty much missed the trend anyway.

Just wondering if any parents or teachers are seeing any evidence that declaring yourself trans or non binary etc is going out of style?

Just asking for an overview based on anecdote fwiw.

Even though there seems to have been a shift since Cass etc I'm hoping this is reflected in our young people.

I'm particularly interested in what's coming from the students rather than what schools are doing.

Some reassuring comments.
Just like the mess Starmer's got himself into with his nonsensical witterings about not saying only women have a cervix now having to return to reality and stop lying to the public, certain captured schools are faced with having to roll back their extreme trans capture without it being noticed.
Hopefully parents are now onto this and will help push any reluctant schools back to safeguarding children, facts and science.

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I so wish the back peddling would happen quicker in schools after the Cass report but we're definitely not there yet at our secondary school.
Trans identifying daughter is still treated as special and it wasn't that long ago DS was questioned for calling her his sister 😔
But an email today did have her real name on it and that's a first . Still a long way to go though.

Although the kids seem to be off it, there are still plenty of adults on it. And still tonnes of money being pumped into it.

Don’t let your guard down. Plenty of allies in the ( probably) incoming Government.

PHSE has become his most despised lesson after he was given a detention in y7 for saying well ok then I identify as a spoon then when the silly teacher (now gone thankully) was telling them about th ekid identifying as a cat and that you can identify as whatever you want.

So you can't identify as whatever you want, then?

Did you challenge the detention? Blatantly unfair, and poor teaching, to tell a child something as obviously ridiculous as 'you can identify as whatever you want' and then a critical thinker (which they're supposed to encourage!) says 'well I id as a spoon' and then the response is no, actually you can't id as whatever you want - even though the teacher has literally just said that, it has to be from some nebulous list of dubious 'right think'.

I actually think this is serious misconduct on the part of the teacher. How is that not grooming?

Better to id as a spoon than the opposite sex, you're unlikely to get some cowboy doctors offering bodily modification and drugs for that.

By the way, if we're allowed to id as whatever we want, I id as a millionaire and someone who's paid off their mortgage. Sadly the bank is incredibly bigoted and refuses to affirm my delusion deeply held inner identity.

It is a bloody deeply held inner identity. I'd be able to cope with menopause a lot better if I didn't have to do any work (and could pay a gardener, cook and cleaner out of my inner millions).

Thanks for these replies. Interesting.

I agree with the pp about year 9.

Once they leave school, I suspect most of it will be put of the system.

There are 3 trans identifying children in year 9 in my school. All are ND. One has been allowed to change her name by deed poll by her parents. She is in a relationship with a boy who identifies as a girl.

However, all of our school systems identify them by their biological sex.

Heartening.

And surely it must be partly due to the fact that many schools have stopped teaching the genderbread nonsense and do you feel like a princess or GI Joe, based on stereotyping.

It’s so scary how much this seems to capture ND children. I can see how my own DD with ASD would totally love all this stuff if it was more prevalent at her school. It’s terrifying.

I've been very worried it would be culturally entrenched in schools and healthcare settings etc. Even if law goes the way I hope.

It's interesting* isn't it? My 28 year old dd, diagnosed ASD and ADHD, who largely missed this, is gc partly because she would see it as lying for want of a better term. That seeing things in black and white autism tendency.

• interesting or concerning

ND girl in my family insists she wants to transition... only being held back as GC parents told her it's not possible until you're over 18. We're all praying she'll have forgotten about it when she gets to 18.

Praying so hard for that tide to turn...

She has only received her diagnosis recently. I am tentatively looking into support groups. My worry is that organisations like the Autistic Society are very captured. My daughter is completely in awe of people who are different and would find trans people very cool.

Autistic kids, mainly girls, have been so badly let down by organisations set up to help them. I am so angry at them.

DS finished school last year. I think the pandemic was a bit of a fire break and the whole trend is gradually fizzling out. There was one trans child in his year but they were accepted in a “you do you” fashion so if it was an attempt to gain attention ( I don’t think it was ) it failed.
My eldest niece was at uni during the peak indoctrination period and was totally “emperor’s new clothes”, her younger sister, again pandemic interrupted, is very much an eye roller like DS. They are tolerant and respectful but you would not catch them on a trans rights demo.