Matt Smith and Sue Perkins

[MissScarletInTheBallroom]

Has this been done yet?

Matt Smith has gone right down in my estimation. Sanctimonious twat.

Poor Sue Perkins being forced to apologise for not "theying" someone in order to avoid the wrath of the baying mob.

And you're good at playing women and acknowledge that having a woman behind the lens makes a world of difference to 'female-bodied performers'.

He's disappointing. He was one of my favourite doctors too and now he's ruined it all. honesty, I feel like flouncing.

She modelled how to be a good ally, and I think everyone should take note. If more people reacted this way instead of getting defensive, instances of misgendering would be far less upsetting for those it involves and their community.

If people exploring their sense of self and identity were not constantly told that their thoughts about themselves were more important than anything to do with anybody else, and if they were not constantly told that anybody having or expressing different thoughts to theirs was dreadfully unkind to them, and if they were not constantly told that honesty was cruelty, and if they were not constantly cast as the victim in a narrative that is absolutely nothing to do with anybody outside their own head, then being referred to with sex-accurate pronouns would be far less upsetting to them.

I liked Matt too but he’s shown he’s prepared to drop a woman in it so he can earn a few ‘aren’t I a good little ally?’ points. Matt’s exaggerated, repeated use of ‘they’ drew attention to Sue’s very subtle and clearly unintentional ‘misgendering’, opening her up to the wrath of X. Sue was gushing with praise for Emma at the time and was speaking naturally, without second-guessing herself. No wonder she referred to an obvious female as ‘she’, anybody would. I barely notice myself using pronouns when I talk about people, it’s a completely natural part of speech and it’s totally crazy that it’s now being policed. I wish Sue hadn’t made such a grovelling apology.

If you're not using a pronoun naturally without emphasis, it's not really functioning as a pronoun.

So good it's worth repeating.

I’ve been quite enjoying seeing this highly educated and over privileged your woman on a long term relationship with a man (man man) posing for Bizarre (how apt) magazine in a saggy old man pair of pants and vest (both of which look like grandpa chic 1972) with her hairy armpits on show.

So a straight woman demands silly attention and silly man plays white knight for her and tells a lesbian off.

It’s almost funny…

I think it is very telling - these people really equate femaleness with femininity and want to reject it at all costs.

There's this article linked at the bottom

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/14/need-straight-celebs-stop-calling-queer-21028965/?ico=more_text_links

Someone gatekeepers queer. Dreadfully tedious, Jessie J and Danni Minogue come in for a telling off. Anyway I noticed this in the comments 😃

My favourite comment so far has been. ....

If I had a one pound for every gender, I'd have £2

😂😂😂

Thanks for this, not aware of the background and never having watched House of Dragon before I'd never heard of them.
So good to read an article explaining instead of "insult flinging" and "baying mob"
So he used pronouns respecting them.
So what?!
Sue didn't.
Ok, again, so what it sounds like she didn't realise?!
So ridiculous.
Phrases like "baying mob" ridiculous too as just because someone respects pronouns doesn't mean they're a baying mob.
It's hyperbolic scare mongering tactics and language

Easier to refer to a costar as a they in an interview than to stand up for equal pay for your previous costar in the 👑 (who was actually the main woman in the show and therefore should have had the higher pay) 😉.

No “aren’t I an amaaazing ally” points for doing anything practical to support women

So an actual lesbian who was a famous lesbian at a time when it was hard for women to be openly gay it getting told off by a heterosexual man and is now being told she’s still a ‘good ally’?

What does being a lesbian have to do with being trans

Does this mean just because you're a lesbian, must mean you agree with "all things trans"
then
Also exactly where was she "told off?"
He has a different opinion or wasn't aware and spoke anyway.
He never "told her off."

What does being a lesbian have to do with being trans

Because trans is lumped in with LGB.

I don't read metro.co.uk because it's so gender woo it's up its own backside.

I think it's important to read views that don't automatically align with my own.

Dreadful people. The lot of them.

Who are you referring to there

I think the only person to blame here is Emma. As you say, a Straight White very privileged attention seeking woman forcing those around her to use her preferred pronouns, risking everyone around her being subject to abuse for using the English language correctly. Matt sounds to me like he is trying to remind Sue to use ' they'. When people are forced to do this in workplaces, people in the public eye must be very aware that if they use wrong pronouns or wrong names they are at risk of being abused by TRA. Both of them are innocent bystanders, while Emma herself has whistled away innocently.

I read that as Sue, unlike Matt, probably knows what real discrimination feels like. Nothing about lumping L in with T.

The video in which Matt is labouring over THEY to try and point out to Sue that she has committed the heinous crime of misgendering… I cringed myself inside out. He’s obviously thinking carefully about what to say and how to phrase it to make it clear that he is talking about Emma when he says ‘they’. The end result is that he doesn’t say anything of substance about the programme or the actor because he is purely trying to find the ‘right’ sentence to make the point that Emma goes by ‘they’.

This is what I mean. I work with someone who uses a ' they' pronouns. You have to take up so much brain space trying to remember to say ' they' when referring to them that you end up thinking more about that than anything else. It's the person insisting on using 'they' who is at fault here. Its self indulgent and forces people around them to spend adfitional time indulging them.Sue Perkins does know more about discrimination than both Matt and Emma, but she is still referred to as an ' ally' so she has done nothing to stand up for lesbians, who are being erased by trans ideology.

Where I work there are some who put their pronouns in their email footers - all exactly as nature untended ffs. I just think they are daft attention seekers.