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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Ingenieur · 08/06/2024 19:35

That's outrageous

mrshoho · 08/06/2024 19:49

A dark day for freedom of speech. Is this purge limited to UK accounts? I wonder if it is linked to the upcoming elections?

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2024 20:08

mrshoho · 08/06/2024 19:49

A dark day for freedom of speech. Is this purge limited to UK accounts? I wonder if it is linked to the upcoming elections?

Don't know but I've seen quite a few of the British people i follow on twitter mention they've had their Instagram accounts completed deleted in the last few weeks with no way to appeal it it seems!

ArabellaScott · 08/06/2024 20:13

Part of me wants to close down my account in solidarity, but then, that's how women get pushed out of the public square.

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2024 20:20

Terf_Rocks got hers shut down. It was literally photos of rocks with sayings written on them!

Bunpea · 08/06/2024 22:18

Outrageous

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2024 22:27

I agree, it's utterly outrageous and a sinister suppression of free speech. It sounds as if Instagram want to emulate Reddit.

I wonder if there's any legal recourse for women who've been banned by them?

As the Reduxx article states, Sex Matters has been judged to be exemplary in their social media conduct. That so, how can Instagram justify their decision? I realise that this isn't as straightforward as an employment case, but once again, an American organisation seems to think that they have carte blanche to trample over UK domestic law.

RoseHedgehog · 08/06/2024 23:02

Instagram is a product from a private, American company. Of course they will enforce their own beliefs and value system on their products, and we are finding that the American belief system is more different to the British, than people who consume their media regularly may suspect.

This is one of the most fundamental issues with allowing American dominance of the social media platform layer of communication. More must be done to seek out and use systems created from within different value systems, specifically english language platforms.

ScrollingLeaves · 08/06/2024 23:07

How odd that they say they want authenticity but ban a organisation trying to defend just that.

mrshoho · 09/06/2024 08:34

I'm not clued up on SM tech. Just looking on X people are talking about Meta starting to train AI by using account holders images and data. Are these accounts being mass deleted by bots that have identified particular words? Or is there an effort by MRAs to mass report all known GC accounts to get them deleted? Big mistake targeting SexMatters. If anyone can take them on, it's Maya!

Bunpea · 09/06/2024 09:06

outrageous and sinister suppression of free speech

EarthSight · 09/06/2024 12:02

I love Instagram for the amount of funny pet videos on it, the artists and inspiration I've seen, but I've never been hugely invested in it, and this is another reason not to be. Plus, Meta's been behaving like wankers towards artists recently with their intention to train A.I on (let AI steal) our work.

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 09/06/2024 13:32

Meghan Murphy gone now too.

mirax · 09/06/2024 14:52

This is terrible but it is also a sign of panic from the wokoids in the USA.

NitroNine · 09/06/2024 19:32

Instagram belongs to Meta. Nick Clegg Is President of Global Affairs at Meta. Although no longer an MP, Clegg is not only still a member of the Lib Dems, he’s a major donor. The Lib Dems, of course, being the party funded by puberty blockers.

Meta is also massively concerned with its public image - I’ve been asked about it umpteen times by YouGov. (Maybe they’re hoping I’ll shift from position that they’re still failing to adequately safeguard children & young people 🤷‍♀️). As a US company, they’ll see Sex Matters et al through the lens of being Evil Transphobes, having been literally trained to do just that.

Which I’m sure is all a complete coincidence. Just one of those funny things.

Pythag · 09/06/2024 20:22

This is one of the great things about X being owned by Elon Musk. Gender critical voices are not being shut down.

TomPinch · 09/06/2024 21:13

Pythag · 09/06/2024 20:22

This is one of the great things about X being owned by Elon Musk. Gender critical voices are not being shut down.

The problem here is that Musk is so self-centred that he could easily ban all discussions on X except ones about model railways just because he feels like it. That's no basis for an open society.

VotesForWomen · 09/06/2024 21:45

ArabellaScott · 08/06/2024 20:12

There's a lot of accounts of feminists been closed with no warning. Milli Hill is one.

https://millihill.substack.com/p/the-word-is-woman-40

From this link, the accounts closed just this week include:

Taken down but reinstated:

  • FiLiA
  • Fair Play for Women
  • Women are People Too
  • Claudia Clare
Taken down but not yet reinstated:
  • Sex Matters
  • Wild Womyn Workshop
  • The Same Drugs (Meghan Murphy podcast)
  • Louise Woodward-Styles
  • Me!

So yes it definitely looks like a targeted campaign.

Pythag · 09/06/2024 22:16

TomPinch · 09/06/2024 21:13

The problem here is that Musk is so self-centred that he could easily ban all discussions on X except ones about model railways just because he feels like it. That's no basis for an open society.

That doesn’t seem to be what Musk is like. It seems like he is ideologically motivated by free speech, which is unusual for a social media platform.

IrnBruLolly · 09/06/2024 23:20

I sometimes wonder whether having 'trans exclusionary' in the title gives people the wrong idea. Like, if you had 'gay exclusion' or 'black exclusion' in the title it would sound like you were bigoted (I know it's not really the case but maybe others don't).

IrnBruLolly · 09/06/2024 23:22

Like, it sounds like you're excluding a protected minority, when really it's not about denying trans people the right to exist so much as fighting to retain women's rights.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/06/2024 00:47

IrnBruLolly · 09/06/2024 23:22

Like, it sounds like you're excluding a protected minority, when really it's not about denying trans people the right to exist so much as fighting to retain women's rights.

That is a good point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/06/2024 08:50

I sometimes wonder whether having 'trans exclusionary' in the title gives people the wrong idea. Like, if you had 'gay exclusion' or 'black exclusion' in the title it would sound like you were bigoted (I know it's not really the case but maybe others don't).

There's been a movement by women to reclaim the slur "terf" but it was forced on women by people who knew what they were doing. So it's not the wrong idea for them, quite the opposite. It's inaccurate because it's male exclusionary, rather than trans exclusionary.

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