Legal challenge to UK ban of puberty blockers

[Litterpicking]

How depressing! This in the Guardian (of course).

Campaigners mount legal challenge against puberty blockers ban in Britain https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/06/legal-challenge-puberty-blockers-ban-britain?CMP=sharebtnn_url

Hmm. So in the few days since the moratorium on puberty blockers began, there's been an epidemic of deaths in trans people. And the NHS is covering it up. I see.

It's a shame that nobody in the news, or the Police has picked it up.

Call me a cynic, but there seems to be more than a slight whiff of farmyard dungheap to this bold claim.

GLP have added this to the crowdfund blurb

We have heard from a well-placed whistleblower inside the NHS that, in the seven years before the decision in the Bell case (concerning the use of puberty blockers), one person using Gender Identity Development Services lost their life. The NHS reacted to that decision by introducing immediate, heavy restrictions to NHS services for young trans people. And it did not lift them when the decision was overturned in the Court of Appeal. We have been informed that in the three years following the decision 16 people lost their lives

Given the astronomical rise in referrals to GIDs and the fact that many childen with autism, or poor mental health, or deeply traumatic backgrounds are heavily represented in those referrals, the number of people who have lost their lives may have increased. But Jolyon doesn't acknowledge any of that, not the sheer increase in referrals or the vulnerabilities of those referred. Nor do we know how any of those people died. instead he just uses it as leverage to get more money.

Bring it on. As ever, the more sunlight, the better.

I would absolutely back an investigation into the mental health and personal circumstances of children who get sucked into gender ideology.

Let's see exactly who they are and where the failings, if any, lie.

Yes, good point!

Also, it's ironic that they are willing to listen to whistleblowers now, and not over the past decade or so...

Depends on what you're whistle-blowing, it appears. Staff at Tavistock raising concerns = bad. One person at NHS with potentially dubious stats = good.

I keep read 'senior whistleblower' in one of those cod-Mexican Speedy Gonzalez-type accents, Seen-i-or Wheesil-bloweeer. I'm sorry, this adds nothing to the thread except to demonstrate how much respect I'm assigning to Joly's claim. Not much.

I'm sick of them weaponising the deaths of children and young people (real and imagined). It reminds me of the likes of Jim Jones. They've been begged to stop but they carry on. I'm reluctant to assign malign intent to malign outcomes, more good intentions -> road to hell, but I'm struggling with this one.

So this explains why he stopped being a barrister - no professional body to hold him to account 🤷🏼‍♀️

There would be a chance of retaining it, If Wes Streeting was made Minister for Health in a Labour government. Otherwise, yes, I suspect it would be allowed to lapse. And we have to ensure that it is retained.

And even if it is Wes, he needs his feet held to the fire. I don't believe for a moment that his current stance is based more on principle than on his ability to read an opinion poll.

He's not claiming any sort of causality or indeed any links to puberty blockers or change of stance.

Thanks to Anya Palmer for highlighting this - yesterday he was explicitly saying that he's not claiming causality, and was quite offended at the suggestion.

But today....

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1799031562740371648

It may be totally unconnected to the whistleblower, but I believe there were staff at the Tavistock involved in assessing, counselling and treating children and teenagers who were themselves trans-identifying. This has to have affected how the clinic operated and what other members of staff felt able to say if they had concerns about protocols and referrals to the endocrinologists. I feel it's comparable to having a member of staff with an obvious eating disorder treating ED patients.

Denis Kavanagh in his podcast (Queens Speech) mentioned that Wes Streeting stated publicly that he would continue Victoria Atkins ban if Labour are elected. I haven’t got any proof myself as to whether or not this is correct but Denis is very particular about facts so there’s no reason to suppose he’s incorrect.

For how long has the restriction been in place?

Wouldn't there be Coroner reports and expressions of concern?

Wouldn't NHS England's CYP Gender Dysphoria Research Oversight Board be saying something? Or issuing a notice of concern?

https://www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/spec-services/npc-crg/gender-dysphoria-clinical-programme/implementing-advice-from-the-cass-review/cyp-gender-dysphoria-research-oversight-board/

Wouldn't the parents be screaming blue murder if their child died regardless of any subsequent cover-ups?

Absolutely they would.

Polly Curtis from Tortoise Media was also told there had been a sudden increase in children on the GIDS waiting list taking their own lifes. She couldn't get clarification from Polly Carmichael or the Tavistock press office as they refused to confirm or deny the numbers.

See Tortoise Media podcast Tavistock Part 6

I've seen 3 maybe 4 cases reported on social media in the last couple of years.

But Jolyon talks of the young people 'losing their life'. This is not synonymous with suicide. They could have died in any number of totally unrelated ways. If it's true.

The fox killer is such a useless grifter.

I usually take a look at what Barbara Rich thinks of JM's endeavours but her account is locked.

up until now I have drawn a distinction between those TRA's such as Fred, Himdia and Montgomerie et al who are completely hatstand and the likes of Maugham who whilst just as mental appeared to have retained some kind of functioning relationship to reality. After this latest example of batshittery I will have to revise that opinion.

Absolutely. Astronomical rates of abuse and trauma in these poor children. But yes of course we should add to that by mutilating them and delivering them into the hands of the subset of men who commit sexual offences at far higher rates than the average male. You don’t have to look far into the backgrounds of people who transition in children and you’ll find the answer staring you in the face. Yet supposed mental health experts can’t see what is in front of them?

@StickItInTheFamilyAlbum

Barbara Rich not impressed. On Xwitter re Maugham's whistle blower comment:

"The crowdfunding solicitation is in part based on these shocking but unverified assertions. I think it’s irresponsible to put these into the public domain in this way and for this purpose. Such claims call for proper, dispassionate investigation."

I agree but also think it’s even worse because although some trans-identifying adults are simply mentally ill, I believe a large component of trans-identified males are sexual predators who are fully aware if they they are doing and why. So they are delivering some of society’s most vulnerable children quite possibly to people with those inclinations.

Wait. What? That's a Xeet from Jolyon. Seems totally out of character for him to mention it.

Plus, it's such a sensational item, it's hard to see how it could be suppressed.

Are there any other sources for this? Because, as they say, HUGE if true.