When did trans activism really become a big thing?

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And yes I have googled it before asking, but what comes up isn't that clear.

There's a lot of "trans people have been around for centuries" etc, but when did it really take hold, and pronouns became a big thing?

I know someone who had a sex change operation in the 90's, but has lived a pretty quiet life since then and isn't involved in activism. Then there were a couple of men locally who were known transvestites and would sometimes go out in women's clothes, but also lived day to day life as men.

So what I'm interested to know is when did the transsexuals/tranvestites/gender non conformists/drag queens all come together under the same umbrella? Is there a clear timeline?

Here it is. Just to be clear I don’t agree with her on quite a lot of things and she definitely seems to buy into the true trans thing, but it was interesting to read about it through the eyes of someone who identifies in that way.

i think proper lobbying began in 2014 when stonewall accepted that they had not represented trans people well, and hadn't been standing in solidarity despite the name of their charity coming from a riot primarily instigated by trans people of colour.
I worked with a fantastic woman who transitioned in her late 50s, and that was in 2004. She faced insane prejudice with dignity and grace and was not involved in activism at that time, mainly for fear of repercussions. She is more vocal now, but still very reticent to speak out publicly as many of her friends and neighbours only know her as a woman and she doesnt want to "out" herself

So she deceives her friends with her body? @Littlepinkstarsbyradish

despite the name of their charity coming from a riot primarily instigated by trans people of colour.

Thats not true. See Fred Sargeant on this. He was actually there.

If you tell a lie often enough…..

Are you sure you’re not actually that woman?

Yeah this is straight out the TRA handbook and definitely not just a random observation from a friend of a trans-identified male

Out of interest, when your colleague faced extreme prejudice, was that because your colleague wasn't passing as a man? What happened between when they first came out and faced prejudice and their life now where nobody seems to know they are trans identified?

If they pass so well presenting as a woman that nobody knows they are trans, how would they have faced extreme prejudice in the first place?

If this is a real person, my guess is people are too polite to break the charade and instead of thinking "this is because my friends are being kind to me", your former colleague is mistakenly thinking "I have now 'become a woman' enough that nobody realises.". Quite a big difference.

And this lie by TRA's ignores the actual presence and contribution of a woman of colour who was a lesbian (Stormé DeLaverie) and replaces her with a man (and yes, there are videos of him, describing himself as a gay man) who wasn't even there when the riots began.

It's just sheer misogyny.

And this lie by TRA's ignores the actual presence and contribution of a woman of colour who was a lesbian (Stormé DeLaverie) and replaces her with a man (and yes, there are videos of him, describing himself as a gay man) who wasn't even there when the riots began.

This bears repeating. I am sick of the TRA lie that the Stonewall riots were started by a transwoman. Marsha P. Johnson (a drag artist) arrived much later the riots/police raid started, and has said this himself. He never claimed that he "instigated" the Stonewall riots.

Here's Fred Sargeant interviewed about his memories of the riots.

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The meeting which resulted in the Yogyakarta Principles happened in 2006 and had an almost immediate effect on Australian civil cases and legislation, which is when I first noticed the clash of rights issues (and whose rights were taking precedence). These principles certainly didn't come out of nowhere but I've never looked at the history of the groups involved in the meeting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogyakarta_Principles
https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/section-4-human-rights-and-discrimination-basis-sexual-orientation-or-gender-identity
Kimberly Nixon first filed her human rights case against Vancouver Rape Relief centre in 1995. So the motivation to target the most vulnerable women has been there a long while, I guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Nixon_Rape_Relief_case
I was enrolled in an honours program in the humanities around the turn of the century, at a sandstone institution. Looking back now I can see that the ideas were all there, though it didn't make sense to me at the time. I think in the 90s the academy had already arrived at what might now be called gender identity politics. I remember reading some article, or maybe more of a letter in a special journal edition, by a female U.S. academic who said something about how "we are all trans now." I really wish I had the temperament of an archivist because it would be good to have it at my fingertips.

Also, if they are taking female sex hormones at a level which would significantly alter their appearance, it would be nothing like the levels of a woman in her late fifties up until her late 70s. So either 1. probably wouldn’t ‘pass’ or 2. is hormonally unlike a woman of their age.

Yes, she did not "pass" as a woman for a few years, i imagine that was at the root of the prejudice and the fact that people had known her by her previous name and felt uncomfortable. People who have only ever known her since transition have shown far more kindness and acceptance.
i wouldnt dream of asking her about her hormone medication, if she takes any, so i cant comment on the second part of that response

I'm fascinated by the speed the attitude of the government changed. They went from not wanted to falsify birth certificates, to saying it would be only a extremely small number, to not enough people are getting falsified birth certificates, in a relatively short time.

They know at every point they are going against public attitudes.

Im never sure if Ruth Hunt convinced Teresa May to introduce self id, or political pressure convinced Hunt to promote the T to soften public attitude ahead of plannef self id.

I wonder if the people who introduced the idelogy into schools and convinced children playing around with gender that they needed medicalisation are feeling any guilt now?