Zoe Williams on Wes Streeting

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Zoe is suggesting that Wes Streeting apologising for not supporting the GC position is an election wheeze to win votes. Whilst Wes has form for bending with the wind, it's nevertheless fascinating that she thinks the GC position is the vote-winning position.

Perhaps someone could tell Keir.

x.com/zoesqwilliams/status/1794842950272463176

Looks like she's deleted it?

Yeah. Did anybody get a screenshot?

I do still worry about Anneliese Dodds statements and Lisa Nandy. If Starmer does have a trans identifying child, along with Stephen Kinnock even if he doesn't believe in the TWAW mantra he is going to find it difficult as a parent to reverse Labour policy on this and keep the peace at home. He's probably having a tricky time trying to convince his daughter that being trans is not the way forward. If he has a child who has been totally brainwashed any public pronouncements will be hurtful to her. On the other hand he needs to acknowledge the truth and support women. It's a case where maybe the family situation is tying his hands. Of course, if and when she comes through this phase he may have first hand experience to use to fight the promotion of it all in schools.

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Oh dear, Zoe! 😬

Heh at this 😏

I think it’s clear what Starmer actually thinks if you listen carefully to his words. He’s saying stuff about eg safe spaces (not single-sex spaces) and women’s rights (and some women have a penis). He’s not making statements which appear to placate the TRA’s while actually saying things which support women.

im really hoping for something more concrete before 4/7,

To me, the fact that they've realised that this stuff doesn't win elections is the important part.

Kier Starmer, Wes Streeting etc don't have any skin in the game here. They don't actually care about pro-trans stuff, they just thought it was a vote winner. Now they're realising it's not, they'll just try their best to quietly ignore it for the next 5 years.

Politicians aren't the ones setting the narrative on this, they're just reacting.

Ahh. Starmer’s wife bio still says two children, a son and a daughter, whilst Starmer says two boys. This really is indicative of his thinking.

He would not make a point of saying ’two boys’, he’d stick with ‘two children’, if he was neutral. He’s a lawyer and a politician fgs, he chooses his words v carefully. So fuck me, it appears that he’s prepared to call his daughter his son going by that interview clip, short of it being a sign of early onset dementia, which means he actually believes in this GI or his wife does.

My heart absolutely sinks. That is such terrible news for women and young people and all the soft back pedalling is to simply win the election.

It is so hard for me to understand how intelligent people lose all brain cells on this topic in their haste to #bekind.

Bios where, @DrBlackbird ?

He seems to have a daughter again as of 3 days ago in Hello:
https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides/553791/keir-starmer-sassy-wife-victoria-private-teenage-children/

Just plain old Wikipedia. Under Starmer’s it just said two children, under his wife’s, it said a boy and a girl.

I completely get their desire to protect their children, but if they move into no 10, how can that happen? I wonder if she and the kids will actually remain in their current home and only Starmer will ‘move’?

I think this is wrong; Starmer died actually support this stuff, like he supported corbyn’s extreme left politics. He is pretending he doesn’t while wording his statements to give him wriggle room to do what he wants once elected.
he is a weaselly little lawyer to his core, I’m afraid

I am quite dismayed to see posts on a parenting website repeatedly using a politician's children (age 15 and 13 if that article is correct) to bolster their argument. And I don't care what Starmer might have said.

Williams has now deleted that tweet.

And put up one about Harriet Harman.

'Harriet Harman will be missed in the HoC by pretty much everyone, I think'

What most feminists probably think of when they hear HH's name is her support for the Paedophile Information Exchange, I think.

https://x.com/zoesqwilliams/status/1794842950272463176

She's got a role at Fawcett now. So watch out for them magically remembering their own take on feminism post election

if I was trying to protect the privacy of my teenaged children, I might very well be vague about their ages and sexes

Things politicians have said and placed in the public domain which don't add up will attract questions if those things don't make sense. Parents can easily forget the age of their kids - especially the second or third child. They don't forget, or get the sexes wrong. I've never known anyone who's done that.

He was quite the opposite of vague.

You do realise that Wiki can be altered by anyone ? Even @DrBlackbird could have changed it to create mischief ? Who knows ?
And even if it was the case, so what ? Wes Streeting is gay, does that mean he’ll start pushing gay issues ? Sunak’s wife is a multi millionaire IT business owner, has he treated these people favourably ?

OK, for vague read 'actively misleading'
hence, 'is that Jo Starmer;s Dad the Labour bloke?' 'No, silly, Jo is fourteen and a girl. He's got a 12 yo boy and a 16 yo girl, I read it in the Daily Mail'
might work

IMO he has every right to do whatever might work to protect the identity of his children

This is why I am wondering whether I need to hold my nose and vote Tory.