Twitter Thread - parent who used Gender GP reflecting on being treated by actual doctors who shock, horror, are practicing the recommendations in Cass.

[WandsOut]

x.com/transkidsrule/status/1794326266793103850?s=46

Saddle up for a bumpy ride, jaw dropping in fact.

Very interesting re the relationship between gender disphoria in children and BPD in mothers. Almost like we’re back to fictitious illness (munchausens by proxy).

@Jewel1968 I felt that when GIDS identified that 35% of ?referrals (not sure if referrals, attenders or which) were linked in some way to autism, there should have been a huge piece of work then - research projects, a cross-specialty conference (including neuroscientists, educationalists, paediatricians and cognitive scientists), a whole strand of work which could have resulted in some significant findings. Another missed opportunity while they were buried in the surge of referrals.

Has a study ever been done on the cognitive capacity, executive functioning and emotional intelligence of children given puberty blockers, and also on those given puberty blockers then cross sex hormones?

Yes, Eviyanne, I was wondering the same. Autism could be a factor.

Also if mothers have Borderline PD, then there may be issues related to identity that mother is dealing with that impact on the child. Or the child may need to find particular ways to get the parents positive attention.

That laughing emoji after her child answering ‘don’t know’ is tragic and telling.

That poor kid. Having your parent so invested in your ‘identity’ must be a terrible burden.

I remember struggling for months to tell my Dad I kno longer wanted to go to a certain class that he had been getting up every Sunday to take me too. I thought he had invested so much time and money in it, he would be annoyed or disappointed in me.

I’d have never found the courage to tell him I was actually just a girl after all, especially if he had made been a TRA and my savior-advocate his entire identity.

God. A fifteen year old boy who hasn’t started puberty yet.

That poor poor child. I could weep.

• Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory.*

Why does this not surprise me. :(

and the fourth was aimed at parents coping with their child’s mental health problems

Was there a form aimed at children coping with their parents' mental health problems? It was needed in spades here.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0890856710600676

”Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.”

Am I reading this right that her 18 year old daughter (not the trans son) has a daughter? She says she's a grandma too. 18, dealing with ADHD and autism, is young to be a mom, so wonder if grandma has her claws in that baby too.

Just from my personal anecdotal experience, I have wondered if this sort of mother isn't behind most of the pre-adolescent boy transitioners.

I am not sure it is as common with mothers and daughters this way. Those instances seem to me to more often be initiated by the girls, who get it through social media or school. With the boys, it seems to be driven by parents, usually the mother.

Re using this as her identity. I agree.
I couldn’t read the whole thread but saw from this, “we had our first appointment”, that it all was for her.

Transhausens by proxy.

Sounds like mum in engaging in Munchausens by proxy, as well as having appalling spelling and grammar.

Also, when someone just repeats "don't know" they really mean "don't want," everyone with a bit of sensitivity knows this.

Interesting that she's afraid of being referred to social services 🤔

It's okay, they can just identify as humans.

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I think there were some animal studies that suggested that IQ would not increase in adolescence as it should. But it’s impossible to know exactly how PB may affect a specific child.
but we do know puberty is a vital step in development. Not just reaching sexual maturity, but it’s also important for intellectual and emotional development. It’s logical that not allowing a person to go through puberty naturally will have consequences.

Yes. It is disturbing that this child has had his development arrested at this point and will never be an adult (unless social services intervene quickly before his biological window closes).

Yesterday I saw how a child was behaving towards her mother and I felt a pang, remembering what it was like to be adored and admired by my kids instead of all the eyerolls, hiding in bedrooms, lack of cooperation.

I can’t help feeling that preventing one’s child from naturally maturing, is a way to retain that mother-child relationship, and all the power, control and unconditional love that comes with it. They never need to go through that painful letting go.

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That poor poor child. I could weep.

• Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory.*

Why does this not surprise me. :(

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Just from my personal anecdotal experience, I have wondered if this sort of mother isn't behind most of the pre-adolescent boy transitioners.

I am not sure it is as common with mothers and daughters this way. Those instances seem to me to more often be initiated by the girls, who get it through social media or school. With the boys, it seems to be driven by parents, usually the mother

And it's usually the mother eh? I can't think of high profile "trans" child whose cheerleader is a dad.

edit - I could mention DT but he’s more trans active as opposed to cheerleading his kid.

Anyone remember Desmond Napoles? Can't help feel that his trajectory was very mother-driven.

Is that 'Desmond is amazing'?

The Child Drag Queen to Transwoman, who reportedly loved trains when younger?

She certainly uses the word "I" a lot. "I told them", over and over again. And the poor child just gets rolled over. "I don't know" doesn't sound like a happy child to me.

The very one. All very odd - dancing dressed as Gwen Stefani at a gay club while grown men throw money.

The club where the punters can’t take their phones?

There was another one doing the rounds - queen lactation - about the same time - mum was definately revelling in it all. Also the young boy dancing in nightclubs (long black dreads, thigh high boots and mini). Who the hell thinks this is ok?

what happens to these boys when they aren’t small and cute anymore?

And don't forget hanging out with convicted murderer and drug addict Michael alig at the age of 11 or 12. That child was put in some extremely inappropriate and outright dangerous situations. I hope he is doing ok now

Desmond... their website tells a story, though as with all stories it depends on what you want to hear. But I am hearing some real positives from it...

• they/them
• retired from drag and performance
• closed down their fashion line which opened when they were 14
• preparing for college
• would like to be a train engineer one day.

They sound as if they are doing more than OK. Glad to hear it.