Parliament votes to exclude MPs arrested for sexual assault

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By a margin of 1!

I'm delighted that women working in Westminster will be safer. I'm not at all surprised that only 8 Conservative MPs voted for it.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/mps-sex-offence-arrest-parliament-commons-b1157500.html

That’s exactly why they should be held to the same, if not higher, standards.

So you are not suggested he be suspended for safety but for ‘failing to reach a standard’?

Well my experience was the police wouldn't even arrest my rapist because there wouldn't have been enough evidence to convict him. So maybe it's not universal all these people saying you can be arrested without evidence but I'd say to be arrested is a fair bar

Absolutely. That’s why we have codes of conduct and ethics committees.

I don't think whether suspension should occur on arrest or conviction is so much the big story here, and I get that there are arguments both ways. I don't think that equates to a 'pro-women' or anti-women' position. But what jumped out at me was this:

Jess Phillips, who pressed the case for exclusion at the point of arrest, told the Commons: “Today, just on this one day, I have spoken to two women who were raped by members of this Parliament; that’s a fairly standard day for me.

Was also going to make the point that surely, when plod are considering arresting someone, when they find out he's an MP, isn't that going to make them rather more circumspect and careful than if he's been a factory-worker or dolescum? In other words, unlike, say, sticker woman, MPs are unlikely to be arrested on a whim.

Deckchairs & the Titanic

until & unless the sex offenders who have previously been allowed to not just commit crimes, but gain positions of power, are rooted out & removed from positions of power, authority, or influence.

what damage have they done to victims other than those they created themselves? how many have covered up for other abusers? treated them leniently or favourably?

how many have worked to create environments conducive for abuse to flourish? the creation of new victims or potential victims? increased access to the vulnerable?

reduced or waived punishment of abuser or onerous steps to justice or other deterrents to victims seeking help or justice?

really think the likes of Carrick etc were/are putting effort into investigating fellow abusers?

really think the likes of Challeoner would be interested in legislating for increased penalties for abusers? Or greater safe-guarding?

abusers don’t stop until they are stopped, they rarely have only one victim, and become more bold and more abusive the more they get away with it

police, politicians, CPS/PPS, judges, barristers are all areas where one pervert in a position of power could hamper justice, for their victims, and for the victims of others

NI’s new law affording protection of a dead man’s reputation over an abused woman or child’s need to speak about the abuse they’ve suffered is just one example of how society prioritises abusers over the abused

so fucking what about parliament & MPs suspensions or not? - will this make 1 iota of difference to the rates of report, investigation, prosecution, or imprisonment of perverts?

will it make even the tiniest difference to the entitled and damaging behaviour of men towards women generally - because that appears to be increasing not decreasing

NI & Scotland (excluding hate against women on basis of sex) are actively creating a societies with laws favourable to those who mean harm to females

so idgaf about point of accusation, point of arrest, point of conviction, or point of incarceration

because the percentages get increasing smaller - and no-one can know the full extent of abuse happening that never even gets to the point of accusation

fear not tho - MLAs (just shy of Donaldson’s news) have a fix to ensure the abused are even further excluded from justice & abusers can protected

because we are actually at the point where women and children abused by men may be convicted themselves for even making an accusation including up to 25yrs after he’s fucking dead

every bit of it screams ‘shut the fuck up about us abusing you - you’re ruining our good thing’

personally I’m at the point where I will need to see a campaign as funded & promoted & as successful as the seatbelt one, or drink-driving, or smoking, or aids, or bloody recycling

a real fucking concerted campaign against male sexual violence

will we while mostly males run the show tho?

there is no excuse, there is only complacency and ‘oh look a squirrel…..’

You're right.

The Conservative MPs who voted for the motion were:
Elliot Colburn
Laura Farris
Luke Hall
Theresa May
Jason McCartney
Caroline Noakes
Justin Tomlinson
Theresa Villiers