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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Protest to “reclaim” a women’s swimming pond on Hampstead Heath plaaned for July.

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IwantToRetire · 01/05/2024 18:19

Campaigners are planning a protest to “reclaim” a women’s swimming pond on Hampstead Heath amid a row over access for transgender women.

Transgender women, including men identifying as women, have been allowed to use the Kenwood Ladies Pond since 2010.

A member of the Kenwood Ladies Pond Association (KLPA) proposed changing the group’s constitution ahead of its AGM in March “so that only those born female in sex can use the pond”.

That bid was defeated when some three quarters of around 200 people who voted at the AGM chose to continue allowing trans women to swim at the pond.

Now a protest against the decision, described as a live performance, is planned to take place on July 28.

See article for more details and tips on gardening https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/24288196.hampstead-heath-kenwood-ladies-pond-trans-access-protest/

Protest to 'reclaim' Hampstead Heath ladies swimming pond amid trans row

A protest is planned to “reclaim” the Kenwood Ladies Pond on Hampstead Heath as a "women's space" amid an ongoing row over access for…

https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/24288196.hampstead-heath-kenwood-ladies-pond-trans-access-protest

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JudasButler1 · 01/05/2024 18:49

"Transgender women, including men identifying as women"

What does this sentence mean? The author seems confused.

IwantToRetire · 01/05/2024 19:05

I think the author like many in the press is struggling with trying to report facts but knowing that reporting facts could lead to complaints against them for being transphobic.

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PriOn1 · 01/05/2024 19:08

Good luck to them. It remains really sad that the women’s pond is so wedded to men’s rights that protest is necessary.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 01/05/2024 19:10

It's enraging, men already have two ponds to use! Why do they need a third (I know the answer).

User1979289 · 01/05/2024 22:01

@JudasButler1 I think author is thinking transwomen have had surgery and men who identify as women have not.... that's how it reads to me - they're trying to avoid using the word penis 😂

IwantToRetire · 02/05/2024 00:35

I've been trying to find the threads about the original protests.

I thought this was where "man friday" started or have I totally misrememberd.

When I search nothing comes up.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 02/05/2024 01:11

Good luck to them. I hope sense and fairness prevail.

viques · 02/05/2024 01:15

“All communities should be respected”

I think they meant to say

“All communities - except one and you know who you are you cervix owning dinosaurs who don’t care that you are literally condemning people to death with your selfish insistence that only women are women - should be respected.”

IwantToRetire · 02/05/2024 16:59

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/05/2024 01:09

@IwantToRetire Yes, it was the Mumsnet Man Fridays that protested originally.
Googling Mumsnet Man Friday brings up lots of threads, like this one
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3201418-ManFriday-needs-you

Thanks - wonder why they didn't come up when I searched?!

But hadn't realised how long ago that was.

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CountingCrones · 02/05/2024 17:01

The women of Man Friday are epic.

CombatLingerie · 02/05/2024 17:05

Just another wishing them good luck with this. I used to live near to Hampstead Heath. It’s outrageous that this was ever allowed to happen. Unfortunately I live too far away now to be there physically but I wish I could be.

Davros · 02/05/2024 23:26

I'd like to attend the protest if possible but I can't find any proper information about it. If anyone can give me some contact info I'd be very grateful

Datun · 02/05/2024 23:34

“We do not tolerate any form of discrimination.
“Our gender identity policy ensures that in line with legislation, our services do not discriminate against trans people.

Wanker doesn't understand the meaning of discrimination. I suppose he'd disagree with discriminating against adults going to nursery school too? Or against babies going on rollercoasters?

“We welcome and support a wide range of service users, and we want to ensure they all feel comfortable accessing and enjoying the bathing ponds and other facilities.

But only if they're prepared to be props in the validation of, well, any man who wants it.

Hopefully this demonstration will be riding high on the zeitgeist, and the press will shame these people into treating women as fully human.

IwantToRetire · 03/05/2024 00:27

Davros · 02/05/2024 23:26

I'd like to attend the protest if possible but I can't find any proper information about it. If anyone can give me some contact info I'd be very grateful

When I started the thread I half hoped someone who was involved would add that info, as the article isn't clear.

Anyone?

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Tallisker · 03/05/2024 09:52

Is this worth reporting to Kemi Badenoch? I know it's not public sector, but it affects thousands of Londoners.

Davros · 03/05/2024 10:24

🤞
I found their GoFundMe and donated but there is very little information. I hope I'll get contacted through that

Tallisker · 03/05/2024 10:46

Yes @Cycleorrun that's the one I meant ☺️

MishyJDI · 03/05/2024 11:39

Ah the last GC person who attempted this at the meeting was howled down. Keep your biases away from those enjoying the ponds in peace. Or show up and be embarrassed again. Every time this stuff comes out, it shows GC for the ideology that it is. Happy days!

TeamBear · 03/05/2024 12:49

Imagine crowing about women no longer being able to access their own pond. How many Jewish and Muslim women swim there now?

Men can still use the mens pond, of course. Thats still single sex.

Datun · 03/05/2024 13:07

MishyJDI · 03/05/2024 11:39

Ah the last GC person who attempted this at the meeting was howled down. Keep your biases away from those enjoying the ponds in peace. Or show up and be embarrassed again. Every time this stuff comes out, it shows GC for the ideology that it is. Happy days!

You're so happy women are showing up, you've posted explicitly to tell them why they shouldn't.

Like a bloody pane of glass mishy.

IwantToRetire · 03/05/2024 16:57

Good tip about the gardening site. It has an email contact.

Though have only now registered it is a "performance" protest.?!

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IwantToRetire · 03/05/2024 17:01

hmmm ............

#Radfem - don't call me GC @Wild_Womyn
https://patreon.com/AngelaCWild

Is one of the organisers

https://www.patreon.com/AngelaCWild

https://t.co/Fk9ZgbP5ZY

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