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Sarah Montague badgering Kemi Badenoch on single-sex spaces: WATO today

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Abeona · 01/05/2024 14:50

Sarah Montague wanting to talk about the trans issue and Kemi Badenoch reframing it as a women's issue. Hate to say it, but well doen Kemi.

Montague not showing much balance: Badenoch had information on only one school student who developed a UTI from refusing to use mixed-sex toilets in her school. Montague took the 'well, it's only one girl, why should that change anything?' stance. A reminder that when these things happen, even if they are only a small local/ private issue, they need to be reported. How many other women and girls aren't going out, or aren't having a pee when out, because of this issue? If you can offer more insight please contact the World at One.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001yqrl
From about 20 minutes in.

World at One - 01/05/2024 - BBC Sounds

Forty-five minutes of news, analysis and comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001yqrl

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grievancegerbil43 · 01/05/2024 14:55

I heard that. Whoever was doing the Labour rounds today swerved it with some aplomb, but not as elegantly as Badenoch did. I don't like her, but she held her ground very well.

IwantToRetire · 01/05/2024 17:04

I liked the way she was just factual.

She has heard it being said, and has an example.

The best way is to ask if women are finding is their lived experience it is a problem.

And liked the way she implied everything isn't a trans issue, this is about women ie not just trans but gender neutral.

If only she had been as straight forward about the Rwanda deal. Irrepsective of your views on imigrantion, it is the stupidest thing in the world. It just isn't going to solve anthing, just on numbers and cost alone. Why the Tories have allowed this to become symbolic is mind boggling.

Hearing her speak about it as though it were logical and a brilliant solution made me think even those supposedly straight forward speakers can get caught up in the toeing the party line.

Is this the price she has to pay for being "allowed" to speak freely about women and women's rights?

duc748 · 01/05/2024 18:12

AFAIC the Rwanda deal is literally no more than 'sending a signal' to voters that they're 'gonna send them to Bongo-bongo Land'. I only wish some Labour pol (or, indeed, media pundit) had the cojones to say so.

Politics needs a lot more 'mean what you say, and say what you mean'. On every issue, gender not least.

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