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Cass Report debate in the Senedd at 4.00 pm today

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fromorbit · 01/05/2024 14:14

Sex Matters "Almost two weeks after the publication of the Cass Review’s final report, the Welsh government has yet to make an official statement. But at least we will hear from government ministers during a debate in the Welsh Parliament today.

Welsh Conservative Darren Millar MS, the Senedd Constituency Member for Clwyd West, has tabled a motion that calls on the Welsh government to adopt the recommendations of the Cass Review and ensure that children and parents “are supported with common sense, fact-based guidance”.

Amendments to the motion have been tabled by both Plaid Cymru and Welsh Labour, the party of government. The government’s amendment, while perhaps falling just short of reasonable accusations of being a “wrecking amendment” – a proposal to change the wording of something that essentially renders it useless – does start with “Delete all and replace with…”. It then lists four points for the Senedd “to note”."
more here:to
https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/welsh-parliament-to-debate-the-cass-review/

Going to be interesting.

Welsh parliament to debate the Cass Review - Sex Matters

Almost two weeks after the publication of the Cass Review’s final report, the Welsh government has yet to make an official statement. But at least we will hear from government ministers during a debate in the Welsh Parliament today. Welsh Conservative...

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/welsh-parliament-to-debate-the-cass-review

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EggcornAcorn · 01/05/2024 14:15

Thank you for the heads-up, orby.

RoyalCorgi · 01/05/2024 15:09

Is anyone reporting on the debate? I've seen stuff on Twitter leading up to the debate but no live reporting.

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EggcornAcorn · 01/05/2024 16:51

Catching up with this now.

BonfireLady · 01/05/2024 17:16

Good to see this being talked about outside of England as a specific parliamentary debate, particularly given the Labour Welsh government (by way of contrast to it being led by the Tory Health Secretary in the HoC)
Placemarking to listen and follow comments. Thanks for the thread OP.

fromorbit · 01/05/2024 17:53

You can read the proceedings here:
(https://record.assembly.wales/Plenary/13906#C587121)

Basically from Eluned Morgan's summary it looks like the Welsh government is accepting the result on puberty blockers while pushing for a genderist focused referral pathway. They are avoiding Plaid's more obvious attempt to undermine the Cass report.

Rhianon Passmore's contribution is interesting. Looks like she is peaking to me. Which would make her the first Labour MS to do so publicly.

Plenary 01/05/2024 - Welsh Parliament

The Welsh Parliament is the democratically elected body that represents the interests of Wales and its people.

https://record.assembly.wales/Plenary/13906#C587121)

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fromorbit · 01/05/2024 22:00

The reviews are in on twitter. Not impressed generally.

Jo Bartosch

Watching the Welsh Senedd debate on Cass. The bald ignorance & bad faith arguments are staggering. Here JennyRathbone claims "puberty inevitably worsens gender dysphoria". An irresponsible & flat out false claim. Shame on her.

Ginny Fenwick
After Sioned Williams' performance in the Senedd today re the Cass Review, I wouldn't trust Plaid to look after my hamster.

Labour Women's Declaration Cymru saw positives in Elune Morgan's position

LWD Cymru
https://twitter.com/LWDCymru23
Diolch yn fawr Eluned_Morgan
for stating your unequivocal support for the #cassReview.

The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care pointed out that she has both read, and welcomes the review
'This was a thorough and well-researched review designed to ensure children and young people who are questioning their gender identity or experiencing gender incongruence receive a high standard of care that meets their needs and is safe, holistic and, crucially, evidence based.'

Also they were impressed by Rhianon Passmore MS contribuation.

Just noticed South Wales Argus actually published an article from Tory MS Laura Ann Jones on Cass which was good 6 days ago. Great to see more coverage:

What was happening? Where was this demand coming from? Why were almost three quarters of referrals female? Why were so many children? Why did an unusually large number also have a diagnosis of autism?
For years, parents, teachers, clinicians, women’s-rights groups and others across the UK have campaigned to raise these questions and more.
In Wales, they were often silenced. Professionals and parents alike told their fears were baseless, bigoted and even "hateful".
The Welsh Government brushed off concerns and embedded these principles in their own official plans and school curriculum.
Thanks to the work of groups like Merched Cymru, we now know the effect in Wales: children have been started on the journey of changing their gender ("transitioning") in school without reference to their parents. And that is still happening in schools, in Wales, today

What will happen in Wales following the Cass review?
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/24276718.will-happen-wales-following-cass-review/

What will happen in Wales following the Cass review?

Back in 2009, very few people would have heard of "gender identity".

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/24276718.will-happen-wales-following-cass-review

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