Wales Stabbing - What is going on with teen girls?!

[SpicyMoth]

Is there any research etc looking into what is seemingly going on with young teen girls lately?
I'm finding it increasingly worrying that a group who are the least likely to engage in violent crimes such as these is becoming a more and more common occurrence...
Is there a degree of social contagion re; media reporting akin to when a suicide is reported, others copy or feel emboldened?

Brianna Ghey's murder, then another I heard about where girls were involved with beating a dog walker who I think ended up passing away later on (I believe two boys were also involved), now this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68901555

I'm sure I've also heard of others more recently as well but I can't remember the details off the top of my head - What is going on with young girls?!!

I thought the same thing... I suspect this really is a girl, but I don't trust news reports any more.

I think if a girl is taking T she will become much more aggressive. Look at school shootings in America, basically always carried out by boys OR more recently, girls taking T claiming to be boys. I have no idea if this particular girl was taking T but it is something that should be asked.

‘Perhaps females are starting to emulate this’

could also be they see the deluge of assaults on females, the lack of response at best by authorities, the exclusion of misogyny from hate bills, erosion of female rights, practically the decriminalisation of rape etc etc

and have decided it is better to die fighting than ‘being kind’

I got no special treatment for being kind to the men who abused me, or for being polite to police/PPS, or for concentrating on my recovery rather than pursuing justice or a vendetta

but I do get judged or ignored or insulted or castigated for speaking about male violence against me - not criminalised yet but as posted elsewhere that might only be a matter of time

without dependents and facing a similarly shit future being treated as not quite as worthy of humane treatment as a fucking rapist, well now!

I would be tempted to say fuck it all and go take the bastard & as many of his cronies out as possible

and given the level of abuse directed at females of all ages I do not think it is all is odd

lashing out in pain fear defensively or even preemptively to ‘look hard’ as warning to stay away

it is incredibly human

ironic given it’s being treated as less than human that might well be accelerating females to adopt more physical violence

imo

I took early retirement last year. There has always been a small group of challenging girls who would lash out. Problem with girls they can be very devious in their bullying. They can make others students lives hell. This group were often accomplished liars and always knew their rights.They were such a tiny group that lots of interventions would be put in place as there was more resources in the system pre academy trusts.I do recall 2 girls being so out of control that they were expelled in the early 90s. This too included knives. It never made it to the news. All hushed up.
In the last 10 years or so I have witnessed more intimidating behaviour in girls.They are quick to lash out and seem to enjoy it.
Social media has a lot to do with it. Sadly, SOME parents do not set good boundaries or examples.
Families are so busy, work, me time, etc. We all are so busy. When you chat to students they often seem isolated or floundering in extended families.
When I say isolated I mean left without any adult company not even at dinner. Their social media, gaming and tik talk become their family thus leading to more isolation.
Y9 use to be the difficult year. In recent years it has been Y8 girls who cause the most problems.
Funny enough looking back I think that one of the easiest schools taught was a socially deprived area in the North East. It was an all boys school.

To be fair there has always been some girls/women who are violent. Just thinking back to secondary school there were always a small group of aggressive, mouthy, and violent teen girls that people tried to avoid getting in the wrong side of. And there's always been loud, aggressive, mouthy and sometimes violent women people avoid upsetting.

However, they are still in the minority when it comes to stats including both men and women. I think violent crimes committed by girls and women are often against other girls and women too, whereas male crimes are against both men and women.

The girls were vicious when I was at school, worse than the boys and that was pre-social media. I don't find this massively surprising tbh.

I also wondered if it was actually a girl, although the possibility of a girl taking testosterone hadn't occurred to me

True though that there have always been violent girls and women

Yes, this. There have always been outlier crimes like this. They make the news precisely because of their rarity.

The homicide rate is pretty stable - link

There were 20 homicides by women in 22-23, compared to 71 in 2012-13. With such small numbers, you will see variations from year to year, but there is no evidence of an upward trend.

I went to an all girls secondary school. It was horrible. Girls aren't little pure angels. They can be, just like boys, absolutely awful.

Absolutely nailed it with this comment, I'm non teaching staff at a secondary school and totally agree.