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Recognition for Sajid Javid who helped to bring this scandal to a halt

31 replies

Mycatsmudge · 23/04/2024 13:34

I think Sajid Javid the former health secretary who commissioned the Cass Review should be thanked and acknowledged for helping bring this scandal to a halt. It’s a shame he is leaving parliament at the next election as he shows good judgement and integrity which is sorely needed in parliament right now. If his legacy is he helped prevent the further harming of vulnerable children and young people in the UK and elsewhere then his time as a MP would has been well spent. This is what he said the the BBC regarding the GIDs clinic

‘’When I was briefed on the NHS’s Tavistock Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) for the first time, I knew this was not just another policy area but a child protection issue and huge medical scandal in the making.
As Secretary of State for Health and Social Care at the time, I instructed officials to provide all available support to Dr Hilary Cass, the chair of the Independent Review into Gids. I introduced legislation to support her investigation, and months later, backed the recommendations of the interim report.
She has demonstrated exceptional courage throughout and today, her final report is published. Whilst the findings are not surprising, they are no less sickening. Quite simply, ideology replaced the best interests of children, thousands of whom have now been failed in this modern-day scandal.
At every opportunity, and in each department I served in, I tried to advance the cause of child protection. In this case, the source of lessons lies within both the clinical practice, and political culture which enabled it to persist for so long. Unless each is resolved, more children will be harmed.
In any other setting it is hard to imagine a patient meeting a doctor and the patient telling them what their diagnosis is. Yet the approach of self-diagnoses was the medical pathway adopted at Gids. This resulted in clinicians not showing enough interest in other potential factors, including trauma, social influence, sexual abuse or different conditions. Take the example of autism, which we know about 2 per cent of children in the UK are thought to have. At Gids, a review found that about 35 per cent had moderate or severe autistic traits.
Compounding this was the widespread prescription of puberty blockers. Thankfully, that practice in the NHS is changing, but huge loopholes remain in the system. Both private clinics and prescriptions ordered from abroad remain significant problems. In the case of prescriptions, someone could simply order them online to any pharmacy in the country.’’

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Mytholmroyd · 23/04/2024 13:38

Yes, good shout.

There are decent, honourable people in all parties who sadly don't get the influence we need them to most of the time.

EdithStourton · 23/04/2024 13:42

Yep, full marks to him for commissioning the review.

Politicians do the right thing sometimes.

CaveMum · 23/04/2024 13:45

If you haven’t already heard it, have a listen to the interview he did on the Leading podcast, talking about his experiences growing up and as an MP. He comes across as a thoroughly decent bloke.

nauticant · 23/04/2024 13:52

As I just posted on another thread, that's a great statement by Sajid Javid. I don't doubt his sincerity, but look also at the politics. He's sending a message to Labour that they're now on notice of a very significant medical scandal and if, as the next government, they try to steer things away from sanity, they will be owning the fall-out. The Tories are on the hook too, but they'll be able to argue that they inherited the scandal ramping up and, although they were slow in acting through a lack of awareness, they did act when they saw the seriousness. It might be spin but there's some truth in such a narrative.

BlowDryRat · 23/04/2024 14:00

I didn't know Javid commissioned the Cass review. It adds to my opinion of him as a decent chap. It's a shame he's standing down.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 23/04/2024 14:07

As I recall, Sajid Javid seemed to take an interest in protecting single-sex wards immediately upon assuming the post.

He was a giant step up from Matt Hancock in all ways.

BonfireLady · 23/04/2024 14:07

It was the NHS who commissioned it but he helped oil the wheels (as per his statement).

He's done a great job on this and does deserve recognition. Where is the quote from OP?

Teddleshon · 23/04/2024 14:09

Always liked him. He was so gracious after being shafted by Dominic Cummings into resigning as Chancellor. He was a real loss to the Cabinet.

BonfireLady · 23/04/2024 14:09

He was a giant step up from Matt Hancock in all ways.

Depends on what you're looking for: a snog in a corridor and completing difficult tasks while surrounded by insects or healthcare which safeguards its patients from harm.

EmpressoftheMundane · 23/04/2024 14:12

Agree, he helped find a way to get things back to facts and open discussion. Long way to go still, but he acted responsibly when so many others failed to do so.

BonfireLady · 23/04/2024 14:13

On a more sensible note, I particularly like that he's calling out the autism issue. The significance of that ratio should be headline news as far as this scandal is concerned.
From my own research (verifiable with links.... to follow):
1)1% of the general population is autistic
2) Anywhere between 35 and 48% of GIDS referrals is autistic.

porridgecake · 23/04/2024 14:17

How can we write to him? As far as I am aware you can only write to your own MP or to a minister.
I first wrote to my MP about this in 2016. She really didn't take it seriously and was completely uncontactable all through lockdown.

Signalbox · 23/04/2024 14:19

I thought it was Matt Hancock who set the Cass Review in motion during Covid.

CaveMum · 23/04/2024 14:21

porridgecake · 23/04/2024 14:17

How can we write to him? As far as I am aware you can only write to your own MP or to a minister.
I first wrote to my MP about this in 2016. She really didn't take it seriously and was completely uncontactable all through lockdown.

His contact info is here: Contact information for Sir Sajid Javid - MPs and Lords - UK Parliament

I know technically, as you say, you're only supposed to contact your own MP but can't do any harm to send an email.

Signalbox · 23/04/2024 14:28

It was Matt Hancock...

"Even more credit should go to health secretaries such as Matt Hancock who in the midst of the pandemic pushed for the commissioning of the review by Dr Hilary Cass that led to the closing of the Tavistok and also his successor, Sajid Javid, who provided support when I raised numerous concerns that the Department of Health refused to prioritise."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-tavistock-scandal-shows-the-dangers-of-civil-service-groupthink-5bj2z26c7

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The Tavistock scandal shows the dangers of civil service groupthink

Government ministers have difficult decisions to make, often between options where the best course of action is unclear. Some decisions, however, are simple. T

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-tavistock-scandal-shows-the-dangers-of-civil-service-groupthink-5bj2z26c7

BonfireLady · 23/04/2024 14:37

Signalbox · 23/04/2024 14:28

It was Matt Hancock...

"Even more credit should go to health secretaries such as Matt Hancock who in the midst of the pandemic pushed for the commissioning of the review by Dr Hilary Cass that led to the closing of the Tavistok and also his successor, Sajid Javid, who provided support when I raised numerous concerns that the Department of Health refused to prioritise."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-tavistock-scandal-shows-the-dangers-of-civil-service-groupthink-5bj2z26c7

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In which case I take back a small portion of my sarcasm about MH. Any senior politician who had a role in pushing for this deserves credit. I had missed that fact when I read the Kemi article.
It was the NHS who ultimately commissioned it but it needs politicians to drive it, given the capture of the NHS. Similar to how Victoria Atkins had to step in and drive the 6 out of 7 adults gender services to supply their data.

AdamRyan · 23/04/2024 14:40

Signalbox · 23/04/2024 14:28

It was Matt Hancock...

"Even more credit should go to health secretaries such as Matt Hancock who in the midst of the pandemic pushed for the commissioning of the review by Dr Hilary Cass that led to the closing of the Tavistok and also his successor, Sajid Javid, who provided support when I raised numerous concerns that the Department of Health refused to prioritise."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-tavistock-scandal-shows-the-dangers-of-civil-service-groupthink-5bj2z26c7

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😂

To be honest I think its the least they could do after the Tavi court case. If there hadn't been a review, it would be government negligence imo.

I am not cheerleading the government for doing the basics of the job. The fact people think its necessary just shows how broken our democracy is.

CactusBasket · 23/04/2024 14:43

)1% of the general population is autistic
2) Anywhere between 35 and 48% of GIDS referrals is autistic.

And in 3... 2... 1... 'Autism is a symptom of/a type of gender variance and we should be transing even more autistic kids'.

Betcha some TRAs will take that view of it.

ResisterRex · 23/04/2024 15:06

Signalbox · 23/04/2024 14:19

I thought it was Matt Hancock who set the Cass Review in motion during Covid.

It was.

Javid made the law change so Cass could access the adult services data, which of course 6 of 7 services refused to provide.

Imnobody4 · 23/04/2024 15:08

Echo the sentiment MH & SJ deserve recognition. It's been interesting to see the growth in support from men in the Tory Party together with cross bench & Labour peers in HOL.

AGlinnerOfHope · 23/04/2024 15:13

I’m happy to thank anyone who didn’t actually put obstacles in the way. Unlike many.

Runskiyoga · 23/04/2024 15:16

I rate him and remember this in 2021
'Sajid Javid has drafted a bill to end a rule that allows 16 and 17-year-olds to marry with their parents' permission.

He said research showed most of these unions were "coerced or forced for cultural and religious reasons". Mr Javid said raising the legal age to marry remained "one glaring thing that stands out" in the battle to stop forced marriages.

He argues that under-18s who marry were more likely to suffer domestic or sexual violence, be socially isolated, and drop out of education, even when marriages are not forced.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "In our legal system, it already is very clear: you are not an adult until the age of 18.

"Why is that? Because the law protects children from making decisions that they may not understand the gravity of," he added.

"Child marriage is child abuse, it really is as simple as that." '

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/04/2024 16:20

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 23/04/2024 14:07

As I recall, Sajid Javid seemed to take an interest in protecting single-sex wards immediately upon assuming the post.

He was a giant step up from Matt Hancock in all ways.

It's a low bar, but yes.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/04/2024 16:22

porridgecake · 23/04/2024 14:17

How can we write to him? As far as I am aware you can only write to your own MP or to a minister.
I first wrote to my MP about this in 2016. She really didn't take it seriously and was completely uncontactable all through lockdown.

You can write to whoever you want. I've written to Jeremy Hunt when he was SOS for Health (and, in fairness, had a courteous reply, though no doubt from some underling). But only your constituency MP is required - within reason - to respond.