Transnational 'Anti-Gender' Movements and Resistance

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Do we know about this?

Saw Judith Butler being interviewed recently as she mentioned evidence of anti- trans movements. So I did a search and found this.

https://www.lse.ac.uk/gender/news/2022/AHRC-launch

They've got a project website if you follow the link.

Apparently Jacob Breslaw of Mermaids fame was on the board.
Through four transnational workshops, the network will bring together scholars, activists and policy-makers from different parts of the globe to contend seriously with ‘anti-gender ideology’ and its counter-narratives. The network is supported by a dynamic Advisory Board comprising UK-based and international representatives within academia and progressive civil society actors and organisations.In foregrounding a focus on concepts and narrative, the network aims to develop a transnational methodology which can help us draw out how these ‘anti-gender’ mobilisations work, with the aim of generating more robust tools for resistance to the take up of anti-feminism for right-wing agendas.

Cash is always welcome.

I want notes though,Nationwide were well ticked off when I tried to pay in three grand in £2 coins.

Mega churches fund the US far right and the US far right funds UK GC activists.

Citation needed.

Because this nonsense keeps being trotted out and I haven't seen one jot of proof that a) they're funding "GC activists" at all, or even selected groups. Quite frankly it's fucking insulting to be told that the reason for our activism is funding from religious nutjobs rather than because we actually believe in that for which we campaign. Way to dismiss genuinely held views

Genderist homophobia:
Telling lesbians that men are lesbians (Stonewall)
Telling homosexual women and men that homosexuality is a bigoted genital preference (Stonewall)
Telling homosexual women that a refusal to make themselves available to men is akin to racism (Nancy Kelley of Stonewall)
Telling a girl or boy that they might be the opposite sex because they fancy people of their own sex (Sign of trans identity according to Mermaids et al.)

I didn't say it was a left/right divide. I said that gender critical people have no more in common with the far right than they do with the world in general. Whereas genderists (whether left-wing, centrist or right-wing) share several far-right beliefs.

I'm just surprised the genderists aren't making more of an effort to distance themselves from the far right if they hate them so much. But perhaps the hatred is just a pretence. Perhaps they know that they both essentially want the same thing - the subjugation of women.

Err go read the KJK threads. Look at the Nat Con movement and where their money comes from.

I don't want to derail the thread, but there certainly is money coming from the American Christian Right to influence the debate on trans issues in this country. Its attemoted ideological capture, just of the far right variety.

Telling homosexual women and men that homosexuality is a bigoted genital preference (Stonewall)
When did Stonewall do this?

I'm equally surprised GC feminists don't want to distance themselves from the far right.🤷‍♀️ Maybe both sides see themselves as "open minded" and "listening to all views"?

I don't know when exactly.
So you accept all the other bits of evidence, I presume?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10225111/Stonewall-brands-lesbians-sexual-racists-raising-concerns-sex-transgender-women.html

I can well believe Stonewall/Nancy Kelly/Mermaids saying those things. But not the "bigoted genital preference" thing. That sounds like Riley Dennis.

We've got nothing to do with the far right. AdamRyan. That's the thing. It just seems weird to me that people like you are insistent, without any evidence, that women like me are buddies or tools of the far right when you ought to be looking closer to home.

I'm not talking about you, clearly and I have no idea what you are implying with your "closer to home".
Anyway, I'm not interested in a fight. Look into it, or don't. Just don't go round denying that there are valid reasons for people to link some aspects of the GC movement to the far right, and saying "noone ever provides evidence". Because that's just factually incorrect.

When they reclassified same sex attraction to same gender attraction, their lauding of the lesbian Alex Hammond who goes into schools on behalf of Stonewall to tell pupils all about his lesbianism, the promotion of the Cotton Ceiling Workshop.

Shall I go on?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/29/if-lesbian-prefers-same-sex-dates-thats-not-bigotry-desire-personal-thing

Thanks so much, @theilltemperedclavecinist

There's three terms in that sentence that all could do with being defined, and two verbs that could do with being evidenced.

"Mega churches" as such don't fund political activism, because US tax authorities take a dim view of churches doing that sort of thing. Similarly religious leaders who want to keep their tax exemption don't directly endorse candidates. The most direct partisan activism by churches is the "souls to the polls" GOTV effort by black churches, and they're careful not to say "vote Biden".

What you might say is that churches set out positions on particular issues, and individual believers put money into activism. "US Evangelical money" is useful to scare people with, but it's not different in kind from the old lady at your Catholic parish who makes the occasional small donation to SPUC.

"Far right" as we know is a remarkably elastic term.

There's a fair amount of money sloshing around various US conservative foundations, but I very much doubt if any of us here have seen any of it, and it's dwarfed by eg Ford Foundation funding of causes the centre left supports.

The trouble with all this "links and ties" discourse is that it really does lead you down some very weird conspiracist rabbit holes.

OK so Stonewall haven't said homosexuality is a bigoted sexual preference then. That's not me being pro stonewall BTW. Nancy Kelly is awful. It just struck me as a very extreme sentence, even for stonewall

Alex Drummond is the bloke that goes into schools to tell girls he is a lesbian.

Morgan Page is the bloke who ran the workshops on The Cotton Ceiling and who was/is employed by Stonewall.

And Nancy Kelly called gays and lesbians 'sexual racists' if they didn't consider members of the opposite sex in their dating pool.

Genderism is homophobic, misogynistic, libertarian about what it wants, and authoritarian about what everyone else wants. It's got 'far-right' running through it like Blackpool through a stick of rock.

OK. No need to worry about voting Labour then 😂

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/05/suella-braverman-to-address-radical-national-conservatism-event-with-ties-to-us-right/

Natcon is where Miriam Cates spoke last year and this year.

Cates and her New Conservative partner Danny Kruger are both evangelical Christians. Byline Times have investigated the links between the New Conservatives and the US.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/03/10/mps-links-to-christian-nationalism-revealed/

NatCon is linked to CPAC:
The line up for NatCon London 2023 resembles a CPAC for culture wars, there is considerable crossover of speakers between NatCons and the Hungarian CPAC in 2022 which was described as a gathering of the international right in a previous Byline Times report.

CPAC paid for KJK to go to Australia. CPAC also very very pro trump.

Party of Women Nominating Officer is a joint uk/US citizen, Paul Duddridge. Very pro trump, GB news presenter, and in his filmography is a film called "Jesus: His Miracles".

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/world/the-american-christian-nationalist-right-is-on-the-march-to-the-uk-via-moscow/

Here's some other links.

I wish actual money was going to the GC posters on this board. I could do with some cash! It's not going there but it is being used to influence debate.

I don't know how you could possibly think...oh hang on...

That's an astonishing photo, thank you.

Regent Street, London. I believe.

What does it remind me of? Mmm tough one.

It's not going there but it is being used to influence debate.

And of course there is no big money behind the Genderist movement is there which has been used to influence far more than just debate.