What is actually wrong with Labour?

[ArabellaScott]

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1781285090032509415

@TempestTost " A lot of left wing comedy is pretty bad. I think there are too many sacred cows, to many ideas it's not ok to explore, to many lines you can't risk crossing."

Yes, and its often accompanied by a sort of smug self awareness of "look how clever we are". Which is the least funny thing ever. Like you said, its because there are so many restriction on what they can say but also its almost like comedy doesn't need to be funny any more. And comedy can be about "speaking truth to power" - but it still needs to be funny.

Impressed. Unfortunately, none of the .gifs quite did it. They seemed insincere or sarky. And I, as you know, am a .gif connoisseur. So have some sushi instead🍣 and some fizz 🍾

I think the twiX has been deleted.

Deleted.

The implication is that she thinks he’s thinking about other women, and he’s thinking about something else entirely etc etc.

Oh thanks for explaining, I was entirely baffled.

I also remember this time as being mid eighties onwards. It was cool to be a 'leftie' comedian and anyone right wing was to be laughed at/all right wing comedians were in the Bernard Manning/Jim Davidson mould. I absolutely lapped it up.
As I've got older I feel that left wing comedians are just too preachy. I don't know if they've got more preachy or if they were always like that and now I'm older and more experienced it just irritates me more.

@Boiledbeetle we may have worked together at some point because in a previous role I too wrote a paper on brownfield sites.
Sadly I didn't win any awards, but I did present it at a conference 😁

Yes. The man’s Great Big Thoughts aren’t up to much anyway.

You’d see, for example, green belt seriously described as brownfield wasteland because it has had a ramshackle shelter for a horse built on it.
Or a person’s garden called a brownfield ex-garage site because their teenager has been restoring some cars there.

An easier one to obtain though, needing only one doctor instead of two, and no panel.

Dodds said the current process meant that “a panel of anonymous doctors” got to decide something of momentous significance, “based on reams of intrusive medical paperwork and evidence of any surgery”. She added: “This is demeaning for trans people and meaningless in practice. A diagnosis provided by one doctor, with a registrar instead of a panel, should be enough.”
www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/24/labour-vows-to-modernise-simplify-and-reform-gender-recognition-act

Also, as Labour Women’s Declaration points out:

One of the issues many will be unaware of is that recognition of GRC-equivalents from elsewhere in the world depends on the process being similar to the UK version. Reducing the medical input from two doctors to one would mean a number of other countries being added to the approved list

Also Labour would take away the rights of the spouse of someone changing gender.
It was shocking to read Anneliese Dodds’ tweets referring to the so-called ‘spousal consent’ clause as being ‘outdated.’ It is impossible to understand how a mechanism for ensuring that a partner can leave a marriage or civil partnership, when the very basis of the contract is changed against their will, can be anything other than essential. ( LWD )

And there are other issues LWD points out.
labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/lwd-responds-to-the-uk-labour-partys-pivot-on-sex-and-gender/

We may well have done! There weren't many women around during my construction days! We tended to cross paths with each other on a fairly frequent basis!

If it makes you feel better I don't remember actually getting the monetary part of my award but the certificate is still floating around in my hoard of miscellaneous junk! I saw it the other day whilst looking for something completely different, and now I can't remember where I saw it!

I've wondered that as well.

I think maybe more preachy. When I look at some of the older comedy shows I used to like, they pretty much hold up, and I find the left-wing comedians in them are giving it to all political stripes and ideas.

Not now, even with the same shows and comics.

What I am not sure of is where conservative comedy, or right wing comedy, is these days. There certainly seem to be some elements of the right wing that are much more intellectually critical and lacking in be nice, which is usually a better starting place for comedy.

I do think that most second rate comedians may be smug, whatever their politics. It's a rare few who are so iconoclastic they take on everyone. In a way it's like the very best journalists - they tend not to be joiners, and when they do join it's very much on their own terms.

I already did this as soon as I saw it .
misogyny at its finest

Ok, I had-no idea this was a meme. I thought they’d written the whole shitshow
im 60 plus
and I won’t be only middle aged woman that thought they’d written it and didn’t know it was a meme

so either way- what the hell were they thinking

Two things strike me:

1. I am reminded that I am very worried about the Labour policy of building on greenfield sites (which they will pretend are actually brownfield sites). Once it's gone. it's gone forever.
2. Fuck Labour and their shitty women hating.

I'm well acquainted with memes👇, thanks 🙄

The now-deleted meme, which was used wrongly, nevertheless plays into current MRA and incel social media discourse where bods who already decry 'feminised' education, blame women and feminists alone for GI and other whacko critical theories, now freely call for the repeal of the U.S.19th amendment.

And for Labour to create this? Ugh.