Holding out against self-id: Can we do it?

[DameMaud]

It is a rollercoaster of hopes and disappointments in the effort to stem the tide of gender ideology impacts in the UK, and on balance I feel mostly hopeful of our ability to hold out here.

But every time I hear about the growing number of other countries bringing in self-id, such as Spain, and now more recently, Germany and Sweden; I wonder how long we can hold out as such an outlier.

It feels like a game of Risk, where all the pieces are left only on the UK and are ominously surrounded.

How does it work long term if every other country brings in self-id and we don't?

How do we imagine this might play out?

How does it work where more and more people have legal opposite sex status in their own country, and that is not recognised here?

I'm trying to get my head around what this would actually look like.

I’m sorry.

I agree with whoever said this will all fall apart in the end, it’s just hard to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Of course, aside from pure politics, there is the medical side. I’ve always thought the medical situation will only be resolved when the serious negligence cases start to kick in, which I believe they will eventually. That might have the power to topple the entire edifice, when it becomes impossible to say there’s any such thing as “being trans” or having a “gender identity” as both were invented by medics who are so profoundly discredited that the entire centre will implode.

No need to apologise! Only making light of it due to my own battle against the gloom.

Your post absolutely echoed my thoughts.

And on this one. Yes. There is hope there.

ArabellaScott just put up a great post on one of the threads reporting about the Sandyford which outlined this potential really satisfyingly (medical edifice toppling). Sorry! Not sure where.

As we said. Hold on to this.

Fits in with my Terf- Island -David -Goliath fantasy too!