BBC WTF

[ArabellaScott]

The fact the BBC have not reported on the Commons debate, or generally on Cass bar a couple of very weak, short pieces is absolutely outrageous.

The silence is stretching.

They have two members of staff whose sole remit is to report 'LGBT' issues. Where are they? This seems absolutely deliberate omission.

Scarlet Blake.
WPATH.
Cass.

We used to get propaganda, now we get silence.

What do we do, here?

BBC complaints seem to go nowhere, and the hoops to get to an Ipsos report seem virtually impossible.

How do we hold our public broadcaster to account?


https://twitter.com/whtwldbabsdo/status/1780323215618814416

[ArabellaScott]

This recent radio show discussed why the BBC are failing to report properly. Seems odd they can discuss why they're not reporting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

[Tallerandtall]

@ArabellaScott

get a grip
it was covered

stop slagging off the BbC.
i agree it is not as good as it was due to Tory Brexit Bs and cuts but try Living elsewhere and see how lucky you are.

desr me

[tobee]

I didn't see it covered on the BBC News app. The debate. I looked. I like the BBC and I'm not Tory.

[AutumnCrow]

Have you got a link there, @Tallerandtall to the BBC coverage of the parliamentary debate on Cass? Thanks.

[Tallerandtall]

@tobee

i didn’t say the app.
‘but with cuts not all things get to every platform

[Keeprejoining]

Yep the coverage of women's rights and safeguarding is woeful

[tobee]

@Tallerandtall

@tobee

i didn’t say the app.
‘but with cuts not all things get to every platform

The app is usually very good. Certainly has no problems covering LGBTQ+++ stuff 🤷🏻‍♀️When it suits.

edited to say when it suits

[tobee]

And I didn't say you did say the app @Tallerandtall

[borntobequiet]

Hannah Barnes pointed out on the Media Show this evening that the coverage of these issues has been done by predominantly female journalists, that all of the health and science journalists have been absent, that it was only Newsnight that took it on and that there wasn’t support from the wider BBC. Later I think she said that the health correspondents only appeared when the Cass report was published. The Corporation has been captured for years, pushing trans at every opportunity. Imagine if they had actively minimised and covered up other health scandals in the same way!
Personally I think that a directive has gone out at a very high level that the issue must be downplayed as much as possible, spun and trivialised out of view. I would love to know what’s actually going on at the BBC.

[ArabellaScott]

Here are articles on Cass so far, all from 10th/11th April:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68770641
Hilary Cass: Weak evidence letting down children over gender care

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68786030
Cass review: Health secretary criticises gender care 'culture of secrecy'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-68780132
Cass Review: 'Toxic' gender debate lets children down (interview with Cass)


And an 'explainer'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53154286
What does trans mean and what is the Cass Review?

Nothing since the 11th. Not a peep on the parliamentary debate, although they've reported on other Commons debates.

[nauticant]

Nothing since the 11th. Not a peep on the parliamentary debate, although they've reported on other Commons debates.

They went all-out on the Parliamentary proceedings around the anti-smoking bill.

[ArabellaScott]

Yes, born, this has been going on for years.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-the-bbc-was-captured-by-trans-ideology/

Hop over the wall: https://archive.ph/6ywDP

[Rainbowshit]

@Tallerandtall

@ArabellaScott

get a grip
it was covered

stop slagging off the BbC.
i agree it is not as good as it was due to Tory Brexit Bs and cuts but try Living elsewhere and see how lucky you are.

desr me

You're happy that our national broadcaster is not impartial in their reporting, really?

[binaryfinery]

Radio 4 had loads when the Cass report came out. It was reported all day.

[ArabellaScott]

@binaryfinery

Radio 4 had loads when the Cass report came out. It was reported all day.

Interesting. I wonder why the sudden silence after the Commons debate?

[borntobequiet]

@ArabellaScott

Interesting. I wonder why the sudden silence after the Commons debate?

They had no idea of how damaging the fallout was going to be. Government and Opposition welcoming it and showing every sign of acting on it immediately and enthusiastically? The level of condemnation and contempt, so eloquently expressed? They never thought that would happen. They literally can’t bring themselves to report on it, because it goes against all their beliefs.

[ArabellaScott]

That's certainly the impression I get. I suppose they maybe read it and suddenly the penny dropped.

[Otter2]

@Tallerandtall

@ArabellaScott

get a grip
it was covered

stop slagging off the BbC.
i agree it is not as good as it was due to Tory Brexit Bs and cuts but try Living elsewhere and see how lucky you are.

desr me

The BBC bias on this issue is completely grotesque. It is not an unbiased organisation and it bloody well should be. At this point I would be happy to see it be a subscription service and think that this is the way it will probably go.

[Otter2]

@borntobequiet

They had no idea of how damaging the fallout was going to be. Government and Opposition welcoming it and showing every sign of acting on it immediately and enthusiastically? The level of condemnation and contempt, so eloquently expressed? They never thought that would happen. They literally can’t bring themselves to report on it, because it goes against all their beliefs.

Yes I agree.

[redalex261]

I have always turned to the BBC as my principal source of accurate unbiased news. Which is why I knew bugger all about this issue until about two years ago. It was only after hearing the marvellous Helen Joyce deliver a searing, precise explanation of the issue on The Triggernometry podcast I became aware.

Of course, I had heard of trans people and knew to be kind. I too had huffed and puffed at the stupidity of “chestfeeding” and other bastardisations of language. But I didn’t KNOW. Some frantic research confirmed Helen was not a bigoted conspiracy theorist loon but was in fact the excellent journalist she is.

I kept looking at the BBC. Every fucking day. Nothing. Every day I looked. All the things that happened over the past two years, big things with wider implications for society - either not reported at all or covered in the most minimal way (but only if absolutely unavoidable). As already mentioned BBC has a couple of full time LGBT journalists - this is their sole remit.

It seems obvious there has been an edict from very senior management that this is a verboten topic. I do think it is more than political correctness or people buying into the dogma. Helen Joyce commented that many senior executives in all sorts of businesses have trans identified children and as a result are ferocious about silencing any questioning or dissent. I think this may well turn out to be the case for the BBC.

[andforthatminuteablackbirdsang]

Always worth a listen, particularly episode 2 when it comes to the BBC. Never broadcast, but still available on BBC Sounds. Episode 5 with Dr David Bell is great too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph

[BonfireLady]

They really need to drop this "both sides" obfuscation and stop making the human angle all about the waiting list.

I have no doubt that it will be incredibly distressing for all of the children and young people who don't feel they are getting fast enough access to "life affirming care". The diagnostic overshadowing that Dr Cass calls out means that it is considerably more likely than not that they are demanding access to long term physical harm and to be removed from a treatment pathway that addresses their underlying condition (most likely mental health issues associated with autism-related puberty distress or similar).

This is a medical experiment on thousands of children and young people. That's the story here, BBC News.

[PatatiPatatras]

Misinformation fills a vacuum.

Other news sources which should be less trustworthy gain ground.

And other misinformation gains credibility whilst distrust is sown.

Round and round it goes.

Oh well. At least they have octonauts.

[AdamRyan]

What would be the angle on the parliamentary debate? There was no "news" there, it was people taking their party line. There is no new policy coming out either.

Meanwhile the Iran/Israel situation was and is looking very hairy and Sunak wants to pretend he's globally relevant. There's also Rwanda craziness and Liz Truss' book, not to mention the burning issue of Angela's House.

So I'm not all that surprised it hasn't had that much coverage. To be expected really.

[Keeprejoining]

@BonfireLady

They really need to drop this "both sides" obfuscation and stop making the human angle all about the waiting list.

I have no doubt that it will be incredibly distressing for all of the children and young people who don't feel they are getting fast enough access to "life affirming care". The diagnostic overshadowing that Dr Cass calls out means that it is considerably more likely than not that they are demanding access to long term physical harm and to be removed from a treatment pathway that addresses their underlying condition (most likely mental health issues associated with autism-related puberty distress or similar).

This is a medical experiment on thousands of children and young people. That's the story here, BBC News.

Yep , this is the same BBC that didn't do anything about Saville, Russell Grant and probably others we have no idea about