BBC Scotland WTAF Cass report

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I've not seen/heard it myself but I trust the judgement of FWS

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/16/bbc-scotland-trans-activists-propaganda-hilary-cass-review/

https://archive.ph/9n0HD this paywall avoidance scheme is not why you pay the licence fee

If anything to do with women's rights comes up, BBC Scotland's go to talking head is always the utterly odious Ellie Gomersall. It's tiresomely predictable. Even before scrolling down, I knew that's who would be in the photo.

There's absolutely no hint of an attempt at balance by BBC Scotland.

I hope FWS gets a thoughtful rather than knee jerk response to their complaint.

Apologies in advance for my ignorance. Ellie says about getting birth certificate changed. I have always wondered would the new birth certificate have a reference anywhere on it of the original gender. Is there any trail that this is an amendment to the birth certificate?

No it doesn't it's supposed to fool everyone, that's the intention of changing it

No, it doesn't state that there has been a change on the newly issued certificate -
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66156558eb8a1bb45e05e339/Gender_recognition_version_22.pdf
(page 23)

On the main register, there does appear to be a correction noted.

Presumably someone has to sign the new birth certificates. How can anyone put their name to something that they know is untrue? As a professional I could be struck off for similar.

Change of gender (i.e. sex, if you examine the terminology of the legislation) is a "legal fiction", a description which everyone knows is factually untrue but which is made "true" by the law

I doubt whether the registrar who signs the certificate has any choice.

And the documents produced by this legal fiction create all sorts of problems.

There's loop holes created which affect PVG/DRB checks -
https://kpssinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DBS-Checks-and-Identity-Verification.pdf

Changing to a new CHI number can create issues with screening letters -

https://www.nhsinform.scot/healthy-living/screening/screening-information-for-the-transgender-community/

Thanks all. It seemed too cazy to be true but there you go

It's odd, according to Humza tw are indistinguishable from women but they always can find them when they need a talking head.

BBC Scotland’s The Nine last night was very, very peculiar. They covered the proposed Misogyny Bill and showed interviews with Humza Yousaf and Ash Regan. Regan (who was on a live link) was also asked about Cass. At the end the presenter apologised profusely about not having anyone from the trans community in the studio ‘We did try our best’ she said with a pained expression, and then proceeded to say that in the past some campaign groups have spoken to us and said that ‘issues of misogyny and transphobia are often linked’. So not an ‘official’ statement from anyone just a bit of hearsay and editorialising by the BBC?!

Since when did a ‘comment’ cobbled together from something you’ve heard said by previous un-named campaign groups, constitute or substitute for an official statement? Isn’t it normally a case in broadcast journalism, that you ask someone for an official statement and they either provide one or abstain? You don’t just slot in what you ‘think’ someone might have said??! And I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, when they didn’t cut back to the studio to reveal Ellie Gomersall on the BBC Scotland sofa?!! I’m convinced they’ve taken up residency there as they’re reeled out so regularly for comment. I can only surmise they’re on holiday. Why they didn’t get Beth ‘Pickle Bee’ on instead as the trans voice of reason, I do not know. Maybe they were at home polishing their knives?

And for anyone unaware of who Picklebee is, it's the Beth who Alex Cole - Hamilton (Leader of the Scottish Lib Dems) 'did it all for' and was part of a coterie of activists who several MSP's stood and applauded in Parliament after the GRR vote.

Gomersall is living proof of the negative effect puberty blockers have on cognitive ability.

That's a very good reminder, thanks Waitwhat

There have been so many shockingly bonkers aspects to all of this over the years, its hard to recall them all.

The doubts still creep in for me, occasionally--"Is it maybe not as big/bad as I thought?"
But that's because it's hard to hold so much of the worst of it in mind. There's just too much of it!

So, I always appreciate when someone posts old (not even that old!) reminders of the biggest batshittery on a thread, and then I'm snapped back into reality as any last inkling the doubt is shattered.

And everytime that happens, I get a fresh surge of awe and appreciation for JKR, and her current outpourings in particular.

She is reminding us again, and again.

Thanks WaitWhat23 for the visuals - that’s a useful little montage (couldn’t bring myself to revisit their Twitter)

Be interested to see who they trot out for the Puberty Blockers story on the BBC Scotland News. It’s just featured on the lunchtime BBC News and looks like it’s the headline story coming after.

Do you want to hazard a bet? My money is on Chapman.

Goodness me, somebody has managed to sneak an article into the Scottish News feed (and also on R4 WatO, though the Scottish Green bloke isn't happy) prob on at about 13:34pm

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68844119

The bloke was Ross Greer, who sounds is if he was trotting out Stonewall speak, rather than having read the Cass report.