JKR re: Kirstie Allsopp's "those saying there was no debate are wrong"

[RethinkingLife]

In threader form for ease of reading: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1779920317730709990.html

Allsopp, of course, previously declared that she knew nothing but waded in a year ago anyway and does not seem to have done any due diligence since.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/20/how-kirstie-allsopp-lost-the-plot/

Kirstie Allsopp has the confidence and entitlement of huge inherited wealth, class privilege and top-notch connections. She's never had to rely on intellect, articulacy or skilled argument to achieve anything. And it shows.

Yes. Her comments about millennials getting on the property ladder demonstrate that she just hasn't got a fucking Scooby Doo about anything. She's got the intellectual capacity of a teaspoon, that one.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom
Via twitter:
"Dawn French has criticised cancel culture and defended JK Rowling after being told that she needed to “catch up” on transgender rights." from https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e9095ffc-e349-45e8-a67c-abbf19371274?shareToken=40c6dbf8d0ca9286cb264ee9eeee865c

Alsopp is clear that she hasn't changed her position.

She is still sticking up for the rights of men, still banging on about transphobia and people being mean to Dylan, and pretending that it's women who have been toxic and playing the victim.

She's a misogynist.

Off topic, but I love Dawn's hair in that photo. She had the same style for decades - it's lovely to see her doing something new.

Hmm.

I mean it's encouraging, and I'm glad she stuck up for JK Rowling.

But this bit at the end, I'm not so keen on:

French, however, said: “It’s very powerful to say [‘I don’t know’], especially when you don’t know. That’s better than pretending you do know.

“It’s certainly better than forming an opinion about something you don’t know.

“And I’m just saying, please, especially you younger folk, please inform me and explain this to me so that I can understand it and not make this mistake again. But don’t tell me to catch up.”

The way that comes across to me is that she's aware that her comments about JK Rowling will probably be well received by the middle aged women who make up her main fan base, but also aware that she risks coming under fire from millennials with pronouns, so she's covering her arse by suggesting that maybe she is just a silly old woman who hasn't quite understood the issue here and they should be kind to her.

I'd have said something more like, "I think it's very powerful to say you don't know, especially when you don't know. That's better than pretending you do know. And if you have formed an opinion, I think it's also powerful to be able to express your opinion without abusing people who hold the opposite opinion, to debate, and to be open to changing your mind if you listen to someone and decide that they have a better argument than you do. And I'm just saying, please, especially you younger folk, it is possible to have a civilised debate about this. It's OK for people not to agree about everything; in fact, it is essential in a healthy democracy. So if you disagree with my opinion, feel free to explain why and I will listen to you. But don't tell me to catch up, or be abusive towards me if I don't agree. This is not grown up behaviour."

Allsopp is a fox hunting scrote. Just saying...

Man, JKR always comes out clutching the receipts. Meticulous work.

When I see women such as supertanskki calling hurling insults at JKR online, I do wonder who she is trying to win over. Not other women that's for sure.

Shes a grifter who makes a lot of Patreon money out of parroting the most basic leftie takes on everything. If in doubt, shout “Fuck the Tories!” See also: Jack Monroe.

QueenBitch666 · Today 10:45

Allsopp is a fox hunting scrote. Just saying...

Is she? I didn't know that.

Spot on.

Who pays for that? I swear all the fucking time so I'm now pondering if I just swear and post heavily filtered ranty nonsense then maybe I can pay my mortgage off?
I am truly baffled at who pays to support her, she has nothing of value to say at all. Truly mind blowing.

Oh! She and Jolyon have another thing in common then.

Although I doubt Jolly would be allowed on a
hunt horse in his wife’s dressing gown?

She is still sticking up for the rights of men, still banging on about transphobia and people being mean to Dylan, and pretending that it's women who have been toxic and playing the victim.

She's a misogynist.

She's been brought up in a culture that celebrates patriarchy, and a class that relies on it for their survival and the protection of their wealth (via primogentiture.) She is invested in perpetuating deference to men. On the odd occasion I've seen one of her TV programmes, she makes a lot of those 1970s-style coy comments about female intuition and women knowing best, and seems to enjoy that sort of old fashioned sexist banter. I agree, she's happily steeped in misogyny, like a fish in water.

Dawn French was once a teacher. She should know better.

In what way should she know better?

I wonder whether she's ever contemplated the fact that even if her younger brother gets a GRC and becomes legally a woman, or if she gets a GRC and becomes legally a man, he will still inherit the peerage.

No@BeBraveLittlePenguin, that is not what I'm taking away from the thread.

I was simply raising the inaccuracy because it's important to be 100% factual with any reality deniers, as they will tear down everything else you say based on that one false statement. It's how their minds work.

WOW - JKR has the receipts, what a woman and what a mind. I breathe a sigh of relief with every tweet.

Wonderful woman.

It must be gruelling engaging and fighting each day the way JKR does, I know she's not just doing it for herself but as she points out so many millions of people contact her privately with their fears about this, and she's doing it for them.
The holocaust denying rubbish trending now, well I hope she's not even logged on and is sipping a good coffee in a silken wrap whilst lying on a bed of euros! She is honestly remarkable and so many more people Believe this from what I've heard from friends and seen on social media. I've been paying attention a long time now...

I agree - she\s fence-sitting.

I'm not getting into that debate but someone can be pro-hunting and GC, you know...

Anyway, back to Allsopp. She might not have experienced the sharp end of a "no debate" fall out but then she has a platform and is in a position of relative advantage in society, both because of her connections and her fame. Whilst the latter can indeed be victim to cancel culture, she's never going to experience the fear encountered by an ordinary person who faces losing everything if they're hounded out of their career as, say, a social worker, barrister or academic.

So she can take her ditzy "Oh, that never happened to me so it didn't happen at all" schtick and shove it. Together with her patronising arrogance that she can miraculously fix this colossal bin fire when all others failed.

Allsopp is fluff. She's a dimwit with few real life worries re income, and really should just stick to what she does do well - fluffy feelgood TV with no substance. That's her talent. Deep thinking isn't. I truly don't need to know what she thinks re politics. Choose me a nice hoyce, Kirsty.

I've thanked you but I wanted to do one of these 😂for "Choose me a nice hoyce"

Inverse snobbery showing its head there, sorry...

Supertanskii is a poundshop Ash Sarkar. Ash Sarkar is a pundshop Owen Jones. Owen Jones is a pound shop....well I dunno what he is, supertanskiii is not someone who anyone on any side of the debate takes seriously, is what I'm trying to say