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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Political party responses to the Cass Review

55 replies

RedToothBrush · 11/04/2024 07:23

I've seen a number of comments from various Labour sources and from the PM.

But utter silence from the Lib Dems, Greens & SNP.

Can anyone direct me to their statements?

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Rainbowshit · 12/04/2024 13:48

And now I'm getting replies from MSPs on emails I sent months ago. This is a different Labour MSP. Seems like the dam has burst.

Thank you for your email on this important matter.

Scottish Labour is clear that transwomen prisoners with a history of violence should not be transferred to the female prison estate.

The review of the Scottish Government’s 2014 policy on the housing of trans prisoners went on for far too long and took over 4 years to complete.

Scottish Labour repeatedly called for the pace of the review to be increased and for guarantees that it would be done in consultation with women who have experience of the Scottish prison estate.

While it is welcome that this review has finally concluded, Scottish Labour have concerns that the new guidance does not contain robust enough safeguards and lacks clarity.

Female prisoners are a vulnerable group, who have often been subjected to violence and sexual abuse, including rape.

The specific needs and vulnerabilities of this prisoner cohort is one of the key reasons for the separation of the male and female prison estates and the safety of women prisoners must be protected.

This policy is currently before the Criminal Justice Committee of the Scottish Parliament, and Scottish Labour will continue to press the Scottish Government to provide clarity and reassurance on this issue.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 12/04/2024 13:48

Rainbowshit · 12/04/2024 13:46

I have sent the link to the BMJ journal back in reply.

Excellent!

cordeliachaseatemyhandbag · 12/04/2024 13:56

Ash is Alba not SNP and they are on the ball with gender critical policies.

They will only run in handful of seats though.

ArabellaScott · 13/04/2024 15:11

Rainbowshit · 12/04/2024 12:47

And predictable from the Scottish Greens:

I hope this finds you well. Thank you for taking the time to get in touch with Ross' office.

Thank you for bringing our attention to the Cass Review's report into trans healthcare in NHS England. You will of course be aware that healthcare is devolved, and that the Review did not consider or make recommendations for the NHS in Scotland.

We will of course consider and scrutinise the report in that context; in particular, we note the significant concerns raised about the quality of the report's methodology which disregarded the vast majority of existing clinical evidence of trans healthcare through the use of inappropriate and arbitrary standards of admissibility, which is not regularly applied to other aspects of paediatric care or medicine.

We believe that trans and gender non-conforming young people are being badly let down by the substandard quality of healthcare which they are offered. We are proud that, with Greens in Government, we are improving the quality and evidence-base for trans healthcare in Scotland, particularly for children and young people.

All the best,

Blair Anderson (he/him)
Parliamentary Officer
Office of Ross Greer MSP

Oh my god, these people are doubling down. Fucking unbelievable.

ArabellaScott · 13/04/2024 15:13

Rainbowshit · 12/04/2024 13:46

I have sent the link to the BMJ journal back in reply.

Thank you for sharing the responses.

Seems a good idea to contact all representatives to ask for their considered positions, especially in Scotland.

https://www.writetothem.com/

WriteToThem

WriteToThem is a website which provides an easy way to contact MPs, councillors and other elected representatives.

https://www.writetothem.com

SirChenjins · 13/04/2024 16:39

ArabellaScott · 13/04/2024 15:11

Oh my god, these people are doubling down. Fucking unbelievable.

It’s the Greens - it’s not unbelievable at all. They’re wired to the fucking moon.

ArabellaScott · 13/04/2024 16:46

https://archive.ph/ThHCH

'After the Cass Review was published, the Scottish Greens said they would ‘oppose any moves to increase the age of accessing gender-affirming care to 25’. Chapman is their equalities spokesperson.'

ArabellaScott · 13/04/2024 16:57

https://greens.scot/news/trans-rights-are-human-rights

Here's the Scottish Greens' official statement.

'The party will oppose any moves to increase the age of accessing gender affirming care to 25, following the publication of the Cass Report.
Maggie Chapman MSP said: “Trans rights are human rights, and we must ensure trans people are able to access the care they need in a timely and compassionate manner. It is clear that gender affirming care plays a vital role in supporting and protecting trans people, and we would oppose any moves to increase the minimum age to 25 to receive such care.
“With waiting times still up to five and a half years, it’s clear a lot of work remains. I’m glad the Cass Report acknowledges that this situation is completely unacceptable, and we’ll continue to work with the Scottish Government and Gender Identity Services to bring those times down to acceptable levels.'

Trans rights are human rights

Trans rights are human rights - Scottish Greens will oppose any moves to increase the age of accessing gender affirming care to 25.

https://greens.scot/news/trans-rights-are-human-rights

Rainbowshit · 13/04/2024 17:11

Urgh. Predictable.

Another prediction is that the SNP under pressure will launch their own Scoattishy Cass review that will find that gender affirming care is absolutely fine. 🙈

Rainbowshit · 14/04/2024 15:45

Had anyone seen anything from the Lib Dems?

borntobequiet · 14/04/2024 15:49

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 11/04/2024 17:32

Sure, but not as an article of faith in the way Labour, SNP and others have done. I agree there’s been too much pandering to trans bullshit across the board, but there are feeble taggers-along and then there are serious, shameful culprits.

Tory gender enthusiasts have been as bad as anyone else on this.

ApocalipstickNow · 14/04/2024 15:49
Not Listening Friends Tv GIF

Well there’s this, Rainbow

Rainbowshit · 16/04/2024 19:10

This is intriguing.

x.com/shahrarali/status/1780288889409741003?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

The Green Party seem to have released a sensible statement on cass and then taken it straight back down again. 🤔

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2024 19:17

Rainbowshit · 14/04/2024 15:45

Had anyone seen anything from the Lib Dems?

Just found this:

https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/article/initial-statement-on-the-cass-review

"We share the widespread disappointment at the review's lack of evidence and perpetuation of harmful stereotypes. As always, we stand with young, trans, and autistic individuals, and women in defending their autonomy. Please see our full initial statement below.

Initial Statement on the Cass Review:

"We are very disappointed by the lack of evidence leading to a conclusion which infantilises autistic people and is undeniable transphobia towards young adults and people.

The Gillick competency saves lives and should be protected, not just for trans people but all people. Everyone has medical rights which should be protected.

LGBT+ Liberal Democrats will continue to stand with trans people, young people, autistic people and women to defend their right to bodily and medical autonomy.

LGBT+ Liberal Democrats Executive Committee"

I mean, that's barely coherent.

Initial Statement on the Cass Review

We share the widespread disappointment at the review's lack of evidence and perpetuation of harmful stereotypes. As always, we stand with young, trans, and autistic individuals, and women in defending their autonomy.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/article/initial-statement-on-the-cass-review

Rainbowshit · 16/04/2024 19:21

I've seen that Arabella. Apparently it's not the official Lib Dem statement.

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2024 19:27

This from Meghan Gallagher of the Scottish Conservatives:

https://twitter.com/MGallacherMSP/status/1779795051452764428

'The silence from the Scottish Government over the Cass Review recommendations is deafening. That’s why I’ve written to Caroline Lamb, Chief Exec of NHS Lanarkshire to seek clarity on their position.'

https://twitter.com/MGallacherMSP/status/1779795051452764428

Rainbowshit · 16/04/2024 19:57

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2024 19:25

It says it is! It's on their website?

Here's a sort of round up of some responses from Labour people:

https://labourlist.org/2024/04/trans-gender-policy-stance-cass-review-report-labour/

It's signed the lgbtq+ executive committee though?

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2024 20:03

Rainbowshit · 16/04/2024 19:57

It's signed the lgbtq+ executive committee though?

Well, as I said, it's barely coherent.

Rainbowshit · 17/04/2024 15:16

@ArabellaScott

x.com/millihill/status/1780600089226203327?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Apparently the title was changed and now the Lib Dem statement has been deleted.

The Greens also seem to be having an internal battle

x.com/alisonclareteal/status/1780535092844097757?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

The reasonable statement that they put out yesterday was only up briefly before some demanded it was taken down.

x.com/alisonclareteal/status/1780535092844097757?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2024 16:14

Gosh. I can only imagine what tussles are going on behind the scenes.

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2024 16:19

Archived libdem statement.

https://archive.ph/FgyBN

I think we need to archive any statements coming out about now!

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