Guardian just can't help itself, even on Cass Report day

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/mother-criticises-agenda-from-above-cass-report-trans

(This may have been linked to in one of the Cass threads, but it needs calling out on its own thread)

The mother of an autistic 'birth-registered male' (if we must) complaining about “an agenda from up on high that things need to be more difficult”.

"“[I thought] do we really come across as the kind of parents who are absolutely delighted to have a transgender child? We might be the kind of parents who’d be absolutely willing to support our transgender child, but in an ideal world I would much rather my child was growing up in a way in which she wasn’t sticking out like a sore thumb and potentially going to end up dead.”

Always with the emotional manipulation, and seemingly no reflection that her child, and all others, deserve much better quality healthcare than they have been getting for years. If GIDS was capable of working it out for themselves, they would have done so by now.

This article has an uncanny resemblance to Radio 5 Live interview Nicky Campbell did earlier.

Is it the same woman?

"Maybe being a parent of a trans child is an identity in itself."

Well indeed. I think for some utter narcissists, this is entirely true.

I doubt its true of most parents or even many.

Parents have been led to believe medicalisation was the only option to keep their child alive - by fucking professionals and supposed child safeguarding experts such as teachers and social workers. I can't imagine how hard it would be to realise you've put your trust in their "expertise" and encouraged your child down a dangerous, experimental and irreversible pathway. I can see why those parents would rather double-down and pretend those who disagree hate their kids. The alternative is to take responsibility and that would be very painful.

I suspect a significant number of parents, maybe even the majority, feel helpless and fearful of losing their children in a society fully captured by this movement. In true cult-like fashion, activists like to alienate children from their loved ones. How awful it must be to watch your child suffer and diminish and be able to do nothing about it.

I'm not a parent but the agony of their predicament resonates with me wholly.

there are many parents who have irrevcoably hamred their children who will be feeling unimaginably sick to their bones today. I can't begin to imagine how very heavily those pennies are now dropping.

Generally when there is some sort of scandal/failing there will be an interview with people who have suffered because of this.

I find it interesting that don't have anything from detransistioners.

Quite remarkable. The choice the Guardian, the BBC, the Labour Party and all the rest who have bought into this ideology is: a) respectfully acknowledge the findings of the Cass Review and gracefully execute an about-turn or b) double down and continue insisting you were right in the face of the hard evidence.

I suppose there is also a c), which is issue a grovelling apology and spend some time in abject self-reflection questioning how you managed to get it so wrong, but that isn't going to happen.

I'm almost impressed that the Guardian has managed to choose b), given that the turning tide is now so enormous that anyone left peddling gender ideology is very soon going to be universally ridiculed as a knave and a fool.

After 20+ years working in the voluntary sector and criminal justice system with perpetrators and victims of crime. 💯 agree with your comments.

Having lived and worked in Brighton since the mid 1980’s opening paragraphs are “spot on.” The number of young people that had teachers, peers, advocacy services and PARENTS that were pushing through the idea that the solution was gender dysmorphia to the exclusion of everything else.
Some Brighton parents just loved “special “ children. I was and heartbroken by their behaviour and the fact that they will not suffer the consequences of their actions.

Surely if the Cass report confirms anything it’s that one side, the side that kept asking for evidence that treatment was safe & successful, was in fact right at all along

in what way are the TRA right on this?

also a reminder that it was no us screaming #nodebate at people

also a reminder that it was no us screaming #nodebate at people

Let's not forget getting people fired, doxxing people, multiple court cases, schools hiding their transing children and insane lessons from very suspect organisations from parents, training of very dubious merit given to professionals of all kinds, mad stuff being taught to children in schools, children encouraged to contact strange men if their parents didn't immediately comply with demands, loudly and violently protesting any meeting of women...

It's just not a two sides thing.

There was always going to be the "both sides" rubbish, how else were the proponents of this deluded thought process going to excuse their behaviour? The BBC this morning were still shoving the trans waiting time stuff, while headlining "toxic debate", with no acknowledgement of exactly where the toxicity was coming from.

Exactly. I've always wanted more and better studies. Most of the GC ppl I know have. Without good evidence, you can't make good decisions. GIGO

WRT single-sex spaces, I've always wanted to talk about balancing rights and trying to work for the overall good but no one on the trans rights side wanted to discuss any rights except trans ppls' rights. I have CPTSD and so can't use many single sex spaces (w/o triggering my CPTSD) if trans women use them. I have even said that maybe ppl like me (and other women who can't use single sex spaces if trans women use them) should be the ones who use other spaces, with trans women using women's spaces. But I was always shouted down as a bigot. They refused to discuss it at all or even consider that anyone else had any needs or rights that might be impinged. Same for any other issue I tried to discuss with TRAs.