Trans children have been lied to by adults – the Cass report may now see the legal dam break - Suzanne Moore

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/04/09/cass-report-trans-children-have-been-lied-to-by-adults/

Thank you for link.

Bring it.

"In the full report, which is due to be published this weekk_, Cass is not only concerned with medical intervention (puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, surgery) but is also expected to come out against “social transition”."

Time for adults to bin pronouns in signatures and even making others announce "their pronouns" in meetings then. Adults shouldn't be encouraging trans ideation in children, or encouraging a culture in which this is uncritically embraced and pushed.

This means especially all taxpayer funded roles - including those in charities.

This and the WPATH revelations will start a wave of litigation that'll see gender medics deciding to make a sudden exit from this area of work. Drug companies will be sued. I suspect politicians have been looking for an elegant way to reverse out of this situation and being able to cite Cass and other research now coming out will allow them to say they were misled by bad actors such as Stonewall and turn the ship around. It's great news.

That's an excellent piece - one of Suzanne's best on the issue.

Once you stop giving puberty blockers to kids, once you stop referring them for cross-sex hormones and surgery, once you stop schools socially transitioning them, what is left? The whole dubious myth of the "trans kid" comes tumbling down.

I hope lawsuits follow very fast on the heels of the publication of Cass.

Archive link.
https://archive.is/GHfGo

About time.

I wonder how many will ignore the full Cass Report. Many have disregarded the interim report because progressive ideology seems to be fully on board with ignorance. How will Labour/Lib Dems/Greens/SNP deal with this one? The interim report quietened them a bit, but not enough, will this full report do better. Government will need to legislate methinks

And Scotland?

Fabulous.

This stood out for me:

"Cass is not only concerned with medical intervention (puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, surgery) but is also expected to come out against “social transition”. Though this is not something that happens within the health service it is, she says, an “active intervention..."

whilst social transition is outwith the GP clinic room, it is EXTREMELY helpful to clinicians to be able to point to Cass and say - I will be using sex-based pronouns, you can't change your NHS gender marker, and we recommend against social transition for the very good reasons highlighted by Dr Cass. This addresses some day-to-day challenges of my concerned colleagues - what do we do about pronouns? What about the gender marker mess? We can now use Cass to say we're not bigoted, we're worried about you.

If the report really goes there, it will be helpful beyond measure.

I really hope this strengthens the position of the DfE. Their non statutory guidance needs to be firmed up. Students need support and guidance and referrals to experts not well meaning teachers rushing to affirm.

Now is the time to step back and ask ourselves how we got here. The trans child is a manifestation of a recent story that the culture has told itself. This is a story of social contagion combined with the genuine distress of mostly young girls.

Children cannot be blamed for acting out but the adults who have encouraged this, while patting themselves on the back for their progressive views, still need to be challenged. Cass is but the start.

I am so looking forward to the bit where we get to the point where self-identified progressive adults stop patting themselves on the back and ask some questions.

I fear it’s still a long road to get to that point.

Cass has presented to a Scottish government group. So there is dialogue, although its on the quiet.

It's political here, unfortunately, and it seems the Scotgov are more interested in how they can use it as a lever than in the wellbeing of Scottish children.

See also the XL Bully ban, etc.

Yes. Anyone colluding with genderist bullshit is ultimately bolstering and contributing to the situation we have somehow found ourselves in - vulnerable children being sterilised and harmed.

NHS workers and teachers have previously been vocal b stating in advance that they'll ignore Cass and continue on their present course. It will be interesting to see what happens from tomorrow.

Does anyone know how this works - will Suzanne Moore have had advance sight of the report? Can we trust the rumours of what is going to be in it tomorrow? I don't want to get my hopes up.

Bunch of centres, organisations, journalists and others will have an embargoed copy of Cass to allow them to read it ahead of time and publish items like SM's which will be under strict conditions.

There will be more tomorrow when people can write fully detailed pieces. We'll see what BBC and others do (looking at Guardian here).

It varies. Many reports are issued in advance to the press but with a date time embargo on them - presumably midnight tonight. Sometimes they issue a press statement and then release the report at a stated time.

I'd be surprised if Suzanne's views are "uninformed"

Who wants a bet that the BBC / Guardian reports will focus on waiting lists, the problems with setting up the new centres and gloss over the key issues? It will be tricky for them given their levels of trans capture and their relentless output of programmes promoting changing sex to even the youngest of children.

@MrsOvertonsWindow @RethinkingLife thank you both, that makes sense and is reassuring. The fact I live in Scotland is less so! But my kids are primary age so hopefully I still have time for the government and other orgs here to catch up!

Guardian article linked on the other thread about Cass review. You're not entirely wrong, but there is a teeny amount more balance than that...

Fingers crossed @ArabellaScott they see sense.

As a teacher in Scotland it’s hard to push back on using pronouns etc… we’ve been encouraged to announce our pronouns to new classes (“being an ally”).I certainly won’t be! They’re optional in email addresses but I see a lot of pastoral staff and younger colleagues increasingly using them. Makes me so mad the SNP use children’s welfare in this way 😡 Scottish Greens hold way too much power.

Excellent You Tube explanation of the origins of the DSM, the handful of men who keep expanding it in and the consternation of many evidence-based psychiatrists at what's going on in the the field: a real eye-opener.

Adjournment debate on Monday 15 April:

whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal47602

Rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and gender non-conforming young people: Neale Hanvey

Fantastic piece from Suzanne. Turns out it was a really good thing that she was hounded out of the Guardian.

Looking forward to the review coming out and hopefully it really will have an impact.

Re: teachers and pronouns; I understand this even less than I understand any of the rest of it ... if there's one workplace where sharing pronouns is entirely unnecessary it is the one where people almost exclusively use sex (or gender, if you're that way inclined) based titles. It proves that the whole thing is simply virtue signalling