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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Puberty blocker scandal at Florence hospital: criminal investigation

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WarriorN · 06/04/2024 20:33

I've forgotten the smattering of Italian I know but the poster says she will translate by tomorrow.

The puberty blocker scandal at Careggi hospital, Florence, Italy, is now a criminal investigation. The paediatric affirmation only approach has finished in Italy.

https://x.com/sicilianaetna/status/1776621523568099396?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

"In a nutshell: clinic referred for criminal investigation after failing to administer puberty blockers in accordance with protocols, failing to give children psychiatric support and failing to gather data on their patients' progress."

https://x.com/binseypoplar/status/1776694012520386932?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Puberty blocker scandal at Florence hospital: criminal investigation
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Mermoose · 06/04/2024 21:30

Bernard Lane wrote about this on his Substack:
https://www.genderclinicnews.com/p/back-to-best

A criminal investigation has been opened following an audit of the gender clinic at Florence’s Careggi hospital, according to the newspaper Corriere della Sera. The puberty blocker drug triptorelin had been authorised for off-label use in 2019 by the Italian Medicines Agency (Aifa), subject to psychological and psychotherapeutic support and diagnosis by a multidisciplinary team involving a child neuropsychiatrist. However, the newspaper said two Careggi gender doctors had declared psychotherapy unnecessary and stated that the child neuropsychiatrist visited only once a month. The audit of the clinic was ordered by Health Minister Orazio Schillaci, but the criminal investigation was opened by the Florence Public Prosecutor’s Office.

Back to best

Post-Tavistock reform and disorder; a Finnish honour; so trans-affirming in Germany; a criminal probe at Florence's gender clinic; and evidence-based medicine gets to say 'told you so'

https://www.genderclinicnews.com/p/back-to-best

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 22:03

Bloody hell. The dominoes are all falling.

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 22:09

Auto translated, enough to get the gist:

Gender dysphoria at Careggi hospital, the prosecutor's office opens an investigation after Schillaci's complaint
A center for gender dysphoria is active at the Careggi hospital in Florence
by Alessandra Arachi
Mar 1, 2024

'A month ago, the Minister of Health sent inspectors to verify the medical practices for the administration of triptorelin

The Florence prosecutor's office has opened an investigation into the Careggi hospital department that deals with minors suffering from gender dysphoria , following a complaint from the Minister of Health Orazio Schillaci .

We ask to verify whether the medical practices of that department are the subject of a crime. A department where children are given a drug with a complicated name, triptorelin , for an equally complicated therapy: it is used to block puberty "so as to leave time to explore gender identity". That is, the growth of the sexual organs is blocked to allow time to understand which sex we feel we belong to. A contradiction subject to verification.

Just over a month ago the minister had sent inspectors to Careggi, before senator Maurizio Gasparri had asked a parliamentary question on this department and councilor Marco Stella had asked a regional one (both from Forza Italia). Subsequently, the lawyer Annamaria Bernardini de Pace sent a detailed complaint to the Florence prosecutor's office , on the basis of which the investigation was then opened. After that complaint, it was the Florence prosecutor Filipoo Spiezia who asked the ministry for information on the department

In 2019, triptorelin was authorized by AIFA for the so-called off-label use (i.e. for a use other than the medical one for which it was put on the market) and totally paid for by the national health service. AIFA has two main recommendations for the use of that drug on minors: psychological, psychotherapeutic and psychiatric assistance and a diagnosis confirmed by a multidisciplinary team where the figure of the child neuropsychiatrist is central. The two Careggi doctors, the endocrinologist Alessandra Fisher and the psychologist Jiska Ristori, openly declared that they did not consider psychotherapy necessary and, responding to parliamentary questions, stated that the child neuropsychiatrist came to the department from Prato once a month.

Minister Schillaci's inspection at the end of January had aroused two opposite reactions from the minors' families , mainly from the mothers: some worried by that inspection , some relieved.'

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/04/2024 22:19

Shame that the lack of research, data and ethical medical practice at our own GIDs wasn't accompanied by criminal investigations.

Fenlandia · 06/04/2024 22:20

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 22:03

Bloody hell. The dominoes are all falling.

Hope so. At this rate only Helen Webberly and Jolyon Maugham will still be claiming puberty blockers are harmless.

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 22:24

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/04/2024 22:19

Shame that the lack of research, data and ethical medical practice at our own GIDs wasn't accompanied by criminal investigations.

There's time yet.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 07/04/2024 01:16

There really does need to be some criminal accountability. Good for these police / prosecutors in Italy. It's shameful, given we're talking about experimentation on children, that the police in this country aren't following suit.

Runor · 07/04/2024 07:34

The power this ideology is demonstrating to breakdown children’s sexual and medical safeguarding across continents is unreal. And TRA’s claim we’re only interested in toilets?! Sadly, the police in the UK seem to be too busy making sure women don’t say hurty things to worry about experimentation on kids

WarriorN · 07/04/2024 08:07

Thanks for all these translations and links; the NEU really do look like a dancers bunch of fools in the light of this and the coming Cass review

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Delphinium20 · 07/04/2024 22:43

Wow! Criminal investigation. I hope to hear more.

AlisonDonut · 07/04/2024 23:05

Good. Let's see them all in jail.

Boiledbeetle · 08/04/2024 01:24

I hope the lot of them end up in prison.

I dread to think how many children around the world will have been harmed by the time all this bloody madness ends.

BusyMummy001 · 08/04/2024 07:35

WarriorN · 07/04/2024 08:07

Thanks for all these translations and links; the NEU really do look like a dancers bunch of fools in the light of this and the coming Cass review

Any word on the street as to when the final Cass Report might actually appear? Before my ROGD auDHD teen reaches retirement would be really appreciated.

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 07:41

Either tomorrow or Wednesday @BusyMummy001 🤞

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WarriorN · 08/04/2024 07:46

Cass review - out on Wednesday www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5044674-cass-review-out-on-wednesday

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BusyMummy001 · 08/04/2024 08:10

@WarriorN thank you!! Will stock up on booze, either to celebrate an explosive and condemnatory report or to drown my sorrows if it is a limp lettuce of a final draft…

Happyinarcon · 08/04/2024 08:17

The entire medical industry needs to come under some massive scrutiny. Our grandchildren will never understand how this whole ridiculous ideology got so entrenched

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 08:20

Anticipatory Wineor Flowers for you!

Read some of the leaked stuff in the articles on that thread I linked.

Schools to be mentioned and social transition has significant psychological impact

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Berthatydfil · 08/04/2024 08:23

WarriorN · 08/04/2024 07:46

The Telegraph has been given a leaked copy and has been running stories based on the contents for a couple of days.

gregaliara · 09/06/2024 10:47

A lawyer (he was a witness/expert in a UK High Court case Kira Bell) addressed the Victorian Parliament in Australia (big supporters, the horrors, of trans clinics for children) and advised that those harmed will have their day in court but he wished it didn't come to that. BUT HIS EXACT QUOTE "VERY, VERY, VERY, SERIOUS HARM HAS BEEN DONE TO SO MANY" Later in his address he stated some clinics believe it is too risky to treat teens and there is even a risk of a criminal case. I believe everyone involved has something seriously wrong with them. HOW do they sleep at night? that tells you something is seriously wrong with all of them. THINK, who in history did experimental treatments on children, xxx xxxxxx did -- these people did as well.

WarriorN · 09/06/2024 11:30

That's interesting and also I expect a very welcome address in Australia, whose gov appear to think 'nothing to see at all here.'

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gregaliara · 09/06/2024 15:02

WarriorN unfortunately our Deputy Prime Minister announced that the Cass report didn't apply to Australia because we care for trans children differently than what is happening in Europe / overseas. He was VERY careful to hide the fact that 3 OZ Gender clinics were named in the Cass report. What they were reported doing by the CASS team is well, evil and disgusting. Got to keep it secret because we fund it, support it and like labour in the UK abuse those who don't agree. We have our own version of Rosie Duffield, Moira Deeming and Katherine Deves. The abuse WOW. Who cares about WOMEN?

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