NHS yet again

[Theeyeballsinthesky]

spot the difference. What is the word for people with ovaries v who gets prostate cancer

Oh it just makes them look stupid.

adverts about men’s health always say men but women? Nah. What do women matter?

It's so fucking TIRING. And shameful from them.

What are ovaries, NHS? How do I know I have them? Are they a body part, or are they a health problem, like dental caries or kidney stones? Is it "normal" to have ovaries in the first place?

So sick of the NHS and health charities buying into this bullshit. Women with low literacy or English as an additional language can suffer needlessly or even die from preventable diseases, so men don't get hurt feelings.

I feel like I post this pic a lot.

Just proof of the misogyny and pandering to trans women. Trans men are just automatically considered men (therefore not affecting language used towards men) but women must be clumped into language to make trans women feel included.

The power of this ideology to make once respected institutions appear ignorant, misogynistic and utterly clueless - all in 2 sentences.

Isn't it some kind of discrimination?

A Public institution disadvantaging women by actually not even mentioning them when it comes to female cancers, but not doing the same with men?

It's shameful. Nothing makes me more angry. I lost a friend to ovarian cancer two weeks after diagnosis. A mother with two young children who had endometriosis for years. Somehow (I still don't understand how) by the time she was diagnosed she had two weeks left to live. She was in agony for months, couldn't walk across the office the pain was so bad. Their contempt for women, I find it so distressing and they're never held to account for it, never reply to the thousands of enraged and distressed women who respond to this bullshit.
They're beneath contempt.

That’s not quite how I see it. Transmen are mostly ignored, so the word “men" can be used and we can forget that there are a few women who would like to be men. Transwomen, on the other hand, cannot be ignored, because they are actually men, but we must respect their feelings because they are men who can’t be men because they have feelings. So the word “woman” cannot be used, as it would make these men who are “women” feel bad about actually being men, and therefore they would feel excluded even though they know they are women.

I've never seen my ovaries, though I suppose I must have some, as I have given birth. Or do I? Wait, men can have periods, so I guess they can give birth? That's right, isn't it? Which category am I again? Do I need to check my chromosomes to find out?

The whole "anyone with ovaries can get ovarian cancer" (ditto for cervix and other exclusively female parts) is so mindblowingly simplistic, a ten year old answering a biology test could do better (or used to be able to before they stopped teaching basic human biology). Anyone with a brain can get brain cancer. Anyone without a brain earns a living writing this shit.

I genuinely am so angry about this - these fuckers need holding to account. I just don't know how to as the bloated behemoth that is the NHS just ignores us - and instruction on language from the govt for that matter.

I don't think it's got anything to do with trans women, why automatically bring them into it?
Its surely much more logical that it's said because trans men can still have ovaries so it includes them.
I can't get worked up about it.

That's nice for you, having the privilege to have sufficient English and sufficient educational achievement to be able to interpret this health messaging, and so not need to 'get worked up about it'. Do you care at all about women who don't have your privilege?

It is confusing and unnecessarily complex messaging.

This is NOT inclusive design - even if TRAs insist it is. It’s design that excludes a lot of women. Expecting women to know what ovaries or cervixes are so they can understand NHS campaigns are aimed at them is ridiculous.

It is clearly discriminatory because the messaging for male organs is completely different.

This absolutely is something to get worked up about. Health inequalities are a huge problem. For cervical cancer it is abundantly clear (see screenshot from PHE) that women with learning difficulties are particularly poorly served by screening services.

So why is the messaging about ‘people with cervixes’?

It’s because trans men aren’t raging narcissists demanding to be considered men and taking to the streets in balaclavas etc. so they can safely use the word men without any drama. Women or woman or female has become such a hot button word and we all know why and who is causing the intense drama.

Yet how are transwomen supposed to know to get their prostrate checked if they're not mentioned in the NHS prostrate cancer advert?