"Child" series on Radio 4 - birthing people!

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This series is about maternity care. It's 15 mins at 13.45 each day this week. It's quite good. Today's was about trust, between doctors and midwives, and listening to the woman giving birth. Except one of the guests - a doctor, I think - kept on saying ' birthing people'. Specifically the topic was oxytocin production being higher when the patient trusts the health professionals and feels listened to. I found that my cortisol production increased each time she used this phrase. So.... I'd really like to ask her how many non-women giving birth she's dealt with. What the hell is going on?

Yet again, somebody who thinks that they can give consent on somebody else's behalf.

The best possible care is patient-centred. 'Julia Smith', not ' The C-section in bed 3'. Julia Smith, a pregnant woman, a mother or mother-to-be.

If Julia does not want to be referred to in ways that recognise her as female, then it is up to her to inform the HCPs caring for her.

The child matters and can't be used as a prop to enforce the parent's fantasies. The child has the legal and human right to have their mother and father correctly acknowledged. This goes back to the original GRA, and has more recently been confirmed in the UK Supreme Court in the Freddy McConnell judgement that confirmed it is also a child welfare issue, which takes precedence over the parent's gender belief or fantasy.

So if a father forces his child or other people to pretend he's their mother, or the mother wants to pretend she is a father, it is a child welfare issue in direct conflict with UK and human rights laws safeguarding children of transitioners.

See section 12 of the GRA, the full UK Freddy McConnell final judgement (still available online), the UN Rights of the Child, and also a recent EHRC judgement about paperwork/ birth records for transpeople and their children.https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2023/04/10/paperwork/

So any NHS worker for example pretending a mother is a father or vice versa needs reporting. It should be no surprise the government stopped funding the NHS Rainbow Badge Scheme in which LGBT groups tried to enforce the gaslighting and emotional abuse of children of transitioners /older siblings involved.

ECHR- not EHRC!

Giving birth is the most female thing you can do!

No time for birthing people here.

I was quite interested when the programme came on. Then the midwife started wanging on about 'women and birthing people'. I rolled my eyes and switched off totally. It's a great way to indicate to people that you're utterly thick. It didn't help improve my trust in maternity services, shall we say.

I care. I would have shown the door to any midwife who referred to me as a birthing person or tried to advise me on chest feeding.

This shit is one reason I've not paid the licence fee this year. I watch bugger all TV (and that on Netflix and YouTube) but we'd still paid it for the sake of Radio 4. Then that lost its marbles, various things happened that caused explosive ranting and when the demand came it was filed in the fireplace.

Either the BBC can be an impartial national broadcaster (something I thought was fabulous when we had one), in which case I'll cough up because I'll be switching on, or it can pursue various agendas, in which case it can, as the Scots say, get tae fuck.

This is an actual issue. If you think it isn't, might I suggest reading a few of the threads on here to see where this ideology leads?

Men in women's prisons
The ruination of women's sports
The sterilisation of children
The list goes on....

Isn't that what boats do?

Oh FFS! I would feel so insulted!

You're not going to get the best possible care if the doctors and nurses don't even know what sex you are.

If you're male, you can't be pregnant...which means zero care....