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Abuse is main driver of poor mental health in women & girls

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/03/2024 07:03

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/08/abuse-is-main-driver-of-mental-ill-health-in-women-and-girls-say-psychiatrists

Deeply sad but not all a surprise. Also talks about the difficulty women & girls have accessing specialist support services like refuges

I do wonder how the Guardian can report this with a straight face whilst simultaneously endorsing the narrative that single sex spaces aren’t necessary because TWAW and allowing it’s high profile writers like LOJ to actively encourage & participate in the abuse and f women on line

how does the cognitive dissonance not smack them in the face

Abuse is main driver of mental ill health in women and girls, say psychiatrists

Findings from survey of UK practitioners may explain why many more women than men suffer from a range of conditions

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/08/abuse-is-main-driver-of-mental-ill-health-in-women-and-girls-say-psychiatrists

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NumberTheory · 08/03/2024 07:17

Quite shocking to see it backed up quite so starkly.

Seems unlikely t will lead to any effective action given the state of the Labour Party and the Tory’s inaction as rape became pretty much de facto legal over the last decade+.

Crankywiddershins · 08/03/2024 07:24

I think they inoculate themselves from the cognitive dissonance by chanting "trans women are women, trans women are women" and adding a dollop of "terf abuse of tw is the worst abuse of all" cos most vulnerable and all that.

RunningAllDay · 08/03/2024 07:43

Not a huge surprise and not just mental health. I now regularly ask my very obese patients or those with longstanding troublesome functional symptoms about life experiences and regularly get harrowing stories. What I don't know is whether by acknowledging (without further exploring) the role of their difficult lives in their symptoms is helpful in understanding or resolving their symptoms, or in improving their own self-acceptance. No idea if there is literature around this, I'm not a psychiatrist.

I do find this sentence in the article sticks out though "The report, entitled A Mentally Healthier Nation, added: “This is due to both the physical and psychosocial experience of womanhood, with menarche, pregnancy and menopause being significantly associated with development of mental ill health.”"

Is this about abuse associated with these life stages? Not sure directly correlating normal female experience with mental ill health is helpful though probably need to go back to the main report to look at actual context. However, need to go to work!

RunningAllDay · 08/03/2024 07:44

Not a huge surprise and not just mental health. I now regularly ask my very obese patients or those with longstanding troublesome functional symptoms about life experiences and regularly get harrowing stories. What I don't know is whether by acknowledging (without further exploring) the role of their difficult lives in their symptoms is helpful in understanding or resolving their symptoms, or in improving their own self-acceptance. No idea if there is literature around this, I'm not a psychiatrist.

I do find this sentence in the article sticks out though "The report, entitled A Mentally Healthier Nation, added: “This is due to both the physical and psychosocial experience of womanhood, with menarche, pregnancy and menopause being significantly associated with development of mental ill health.”"

Is this about abuse associated with these life stages? Not sure directly correlating normal female experience with mental ill health is helpful though probably need to go back to the main report to look at actual context. However, need to go to work!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/03/2024 08:23

I just get the rage at the number of organisations who post handwringing articles about VAWG whilst still insisting TWAW are the ‘most marginalised’

twitter is full of lefty men posting in support of women today who I know full well think men are also women and happily abuse women on line who don’t agree

and they wonder why women’s mental health is on the floor….

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RethinkingLife · 08/03/2024 08:41

Hard agree with need for this but in the absence of support and housing…

RCPsych also wants ring-fenced funding for independent domestic violence advocates to be placed in every mental health trust, in line with best practice. This should sit alongside an expansion of the evidence-based, Identification and Referral to Improve Safety (IRIS) programme, to support the primary care response to domestic violence and abuse.

RoyalCorgi · 08/03/2024 08:58

The Guardian has also started a project of recording the details of women who have been murdered in the UK (with acknowledgement to the Counting Dead Women project).

I wonder if this is an attempt by the Guardian to repair its damaged reputation with women, by showing that they do care, after all?

Can't help feeling it's a case of too little, too late.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2024/mar/08/killed-women-count-a-project-highlighting-the-toll-and-tragedy-of-violence-against-women-in-the-uk

Killed Women Count: A project highlighting the toll and tragedy of violence against women in the UK

The first part of a year-long Guardian series reporting on women killed by men in the UK in 2024

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2024/mar/08/killed-women-count-a-project-highlighting-the-toll-and-tragedy-of-violence-against-women-in-the-uk

literalviolence · 08/03/2024 09:18

RoyalCorgi · 08/03/2024 08:58

The Guardian has also started a project of recording the details of women who have been murdered in the UK (with acknowledgement to the Counting Dead Women project).

I wonder if this is an attempt by the Guardian to repair its damaged reputation with women, by showing that they do care, after all?

Can't help feeling it's a case of too little, too late.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2024/mar/08/killed-women-count-a-project-highlighting-the-toll-and-tragedy-of-violence-against-women-in-the-uk

It will be interesting to see whether they bow to male supremacy pressure by including TW in their reports of VAWG. If they do then they are part of the problem. If they don't then it would be a small step towards resetting their appalling moral compass.

Onionbelt · 08/03/2024 10:16

I mean, it's great to see some reporting on this, but seriously how is this news in 2024?
Pretty much any woman knows this. It is of course violence and abuse, but also the third shift, and with that, the constant expectation that women serve the needs of others before checking in with our own. The day in day out sacrifice of self care to the care of others.

Also, noticed this... "The findings potentially provide a key part of the explanation for the much higher incidence of a range of mental health conditions seen in women and girls compared with their male peers" and wondered how the Trans Activists rationalise this against thier own rhetoric...
Oh wait... rational...

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