A child’s fertility pact

[Justme56]

This is in Australia. Separated parents a girl who identifies as a boy and a younger sister caught up in the whole thing. It looks like the younger child is also visiting the gender clinic although it’s a bit confusing. What a mess!

https://www.genderclinicnews.com/p/a-childs-fertility-pact?utm_campaign=post

Bloody hell, what a mess. It doesn't give the ages but those poor, poor children. How did Australia get to this.

That should have stayed blue...

Bloody hell. Those poor, poor kids.

WTF have I just read ?

Doesn't look like there is much parenting happening on the part of Parent A. What a mess, poor kids.

Parent A said they could not “control” what the sisters themselves decided, and it would not have been “kind” to tell Mia that this arrangement was completely inappropriate.

Parent A also said they had told Mia, who had begun to menstruate, that they preferred she had her own eggs frozen if there were to be an intervention to preserve fertility.

Parent A disagreed with the barrister’s suggestion that their failure to countermand the fertility pact showed that the best interests of Isla had not been kept foremost in mind.

Parent A said that last year Isla, by then in high school, had even offered to carry a future baby for her big sister, although Parent A told the court they “thought that was a little bit much.”

It would not have been 'kind' to tell the eldest child that she should not exploit the love their younger sister had for them to fix their future fertility issues? I think that Parent A has very low boundaries on what is and is not appropriate behaviour.

A lot of emphasis on the superficial type of "being kind" and none of the empathetic realism type of kindness, which is far, far kinder in the long run.

Parent A says they "only focus on the positives" of transition 😳

'Kind' meaning 'provide service and labour to'. Literally in this case.

Parent A said that last year Isla, by then in high school, had even offered to carry a future baby for her big sister, although Parent A told the court they “thought that was a little bit much.”

It's horribly reminiscent of the WPATH doctor who imagined that young transitioners who said they would adopt a baby were being unusually generous, instead of utterly ignorant and naive about adoption (as you'd expect from a youngster who has been told nothing about what adoption really involves and is too young to make sense of the emotions or processes)

It's not a novel idea. I recall Jazz Jennings discussing the possibility of making up for infertility by use of the sister in the family.

Horrific scenario.

Heavy sigh out.

You have to wonder about the extent to which parent A is driven by all the attention they are getting out of having two children at the gender identity clinic.

In the cross-examination, it was put to parent A that they had expressed the wish for Mia to go through male puberty at the same time as male peers.

Barrister: “You could not have been sufficiently informed about the effects of testosterone [drugs on a female body], because testosterone [treatment] does not cause male puberty, does it?”

Parent A conceded this treatment would not induce male puberty for Mia—“not in terms of [creating] testes and the penis”—but said this treatment would masculinise Mia’s appearance such that others looking at her would think she had gone through male puberty.

Barrister: “Have you told [Mia that she] will not experience male puberty?”

Parent A: “I don’t think so,” adding that they preferred to focus on positives.

The parent admits that the treatment is not for the benefit of the child, but is purely for cosmetic purposes so that the girl will look male. The child doesn't know this and thinks that she will change sex.

@OldCrone I don’t know how anyone could read that and think parent A is acting in the children’s best interests.

I feel very sorry for parent B. And, of course, the poor kids who are being fed actually lies by their parent.

This is horrific!

Those poor kids, that is horrific!

Giving her life changing medical treatment that she doesn't even understand - how is that allowed?

But, meh, focus on the positive eh?😱

The postive being the glow of smug satisfaction that you get when you're on the right side of history and can totally prove it - you've offered your own child as a sacrificial lamb! Nobody's more in the good person gang than you!

Doesn't give ages, but in most parts of Australia the move from primary to high school is age 11 or 12. So the girl offering the egg was pre-teen (and clearly knew very little about the process, if she thought she could offer a single egg - which at that age is completely understandable).