Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The BBC, Cath Walton's experience and Do not sanction the truth

19 replies

RethinkingLife · 04/03/2024 11:07

Cath Walton recounts her experience of the BBC and their relationship with facts and truths when the BBC perceives that these may conflict with impartiality.

A funny thing happened to me on the way to BBC redundancy. I was put through a lengthy disciplinary process for saying truthful things about sex and gender — not quite the same as the very visible farce that unfolded last week around Justin Webb and the complaint against him, but an earlier example of the BBC’s festering problem with accuracy around biological sex.

[Cath Walton wrote a Twitter thread about the BBC's normalisation of the use of "cis".]

The idea that if something is true, it is not an opinion, is at the root of this journalistic dilemma. It was, then, necessary to made the thread entirely truthful.
It explained that using “cis” involves accepting a system of belief underpinned by an understanding that there are two types of women, male women and female women, and this is as yet scientifically unsupported. (I didn’t really need the “as yet” but I thought I’d cover my bases)

[In under an hour, Walton was instructed to remove the thread as a breach of social media policy. She explained that she had expressed facts, not opinions. Nobody dissented that in doing so, that wasn't an actual contravention of the guidelines but, the matter progressed to a disciplinary with a formal hearing scheduled.]

By then, deletion wasn’t enough. This is the most extraordinary part. I was told to admit to managers that I’d been wrong and would never do it again, or the disciplinary would proceed.

This wasn’t just policing of public speech, which is part and parcel of everyone’s contract. It was a demand that I internally confess my wrongthink, and repent. Obviously I wasn’t going to do that. Everything I’d said was true, and no one had been able to identify a single opinion I’d publicly expressed. In fact, to this day, that is the case.

Yes, people would make assumptions about my thinking from the fact I’d articulated these truths. But I hadn’t expressed a single opinion.

https://thecritic.co.uk/do-not-sanction-the-truth/

Do not sanction the truth | Cath Walton | The Critic Magazine

Stating biological facts should not be cause for heavy-handed complaints proceedings…

https://thecritic.co.uk/do-not-sanction-the-truth

OP posts:
CrossPurposes · 04/03/2024 12:00

Repent. Repent.

Terrifying.

Btw, Cath is on X as https://twitter.com/leng_cath

https://twitter.com/leng_cath

RedToothBrush · 04/03/2024 12:35

This is how the BBC should be reporting.

The fact they aren't shows the degree of ideological capture.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/03/2024 12:56

Just shows how captured by trans ideology the BBC is - a media with mission statement to Inform and educate.
Shame on them.

Good to read this from Cath - her comments about the failure of the well paid and well protected "identity issues" reporters at the BBC are very revealing about their failure to report anything that informs debate (unless you count trilling about drag queens "reporting"

RethinkingLife · 04/03/2024 13:29

Infuriating is this is, I don't see any option other than out with the metal polish, burnish the golden bridge and set out the welcome mat.

I doubt any of these editors would ever think it's personally, far less legally, possible for them to apologise to the women whose views they disdained and demonised, far less women whose careers they destroyed.

I'd like to think they have, "What have I done?" moments of self-reflection. But our institutions are so far gone that I can't afford to care whether or not those people have had that moment. We need them to act and to implement impartiality. We need a shift in policy.

OP posts:
Thedetectivecantbethekiller · 04/03/2024 13:51

! Repent! wtf?!???????

Waferbiscuit · 04/03/2024 14:30

Very lucid and shocking article. Feels like there's no going back from this. The implications are scary - and no surprise those being penalised are women.

HagoftheNorth · 04/03/2024 19:43

It seems that Cath has been treated appallingly by the BBC. Does she have no legal recourse? I feel sure her garden would overflow 🌻🌺🌸🪻

RethinkingLife · 04/03/2024 21:00

HagoftheNorth · 04/03/2024 19:43

It seems that Cath has been treated appallingly by the BBC. Does she have no legal recourse? I feel sure her garden would overflow 🌻🌺🌸🪻

From her Twitter I get the feeling she's out of time to do this.

I feel I let people down by not pursuing legal action

There were reasons not to, but still

So, telling people what happened is the minimum really. Not so much a ‘poor me’ but a ‘what the fk’

https://x.com/leng_cath/status/1764595072413155670?s=20

https://x.com/leng_cath/status/1764595072413155670?s=20

OP posts:
PriOn1 · 04/03/2024 21:14

Now and then, I start to feel that the chinks of light are beginning to coalesce and that soon, sunlight will bathe the whole picture. And then we see something like this from the BBC, who surely ought to know better.

I still have that surreal feeling that this can’t be happening. I must have got something wrong, when so many groups that are supposed to maintain truth and reason seem to have abandoned it altogether.

Was it this bad in the US with McCarthyism? Has there ever been such widespread capture?

JanesLittleGirl · 04/03/2024 21:31

PriOn1 · 04/03/2024 21:14

Now and then, I start to feel that the chinks of light are beginning to coalesce and that soon, sunlight will bathe the whole picture. And then we see something like this from the BBC, who surely ought to know better.

I still have that surreal feeling that this can’t be happening. I must have got something wrong, when so many groups that are supposed to maintain truth and reason seem to have abandoned it altogether.

Was it this bad in the US with McCarthyism? Has there ever been such widespread capture?

Are you now or have you ever been a believer that women are actually human?

RedToothBrush · 04/03/2024 21:37

PriOn1 · 04/03/2024 21:14

Now and then, I start to feel that the chinks of light are beginning to coalesce and that soon, sunlight will bathe the whole picture. And then we see something like this from the BBC, who surely ought to know better.

I still have that surreal feeling that this can’t be happening. I must have got something wrong, when so many groups that are supposed to maintain truth and reason seem to have abandoned it altogether.

Was it this bad in the US with McCarthyism? Has there ever been such widespread capture?

McCarthyism was worse. But I'm not convinced we've peaked yet in terms of legal issues. It depends on what lunacy the next government intend to write into law.

duc748 · 04/03/2024 21:39

Hopefully there'll be enough sunlight by the time of the GE to stop/discourage Labour from doing anything stupid on hate laws.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 05/03/2024 13:23

Another woman put through the wringer, punished for telling the truth, stating biological fact. It really is all about hating women, belittling women, punishing women and enabling the men who hate, belittle and punish women, the men who want to destroy our rights and our identities. Good on her for sticking to her guns, for not backing down, for refusing to apologise, for telling the truth. She's a very brave woman and another one to add to the hero list.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/03/2024 15:30

JanesLittleGirl · 04/03/2024 21:31

Are you now or have you ever been a believer that women are actually human?

Spot on, Jane

It would be funny if it wasn't so near the truth.

CranfordScones · 05/03/2024 15:43

The Mail are running the story too, so should get some wider coverage.

OP posts:
Boiledbeetle · 05/03/2024 16:14

For every one woman like Cath Walton I wonder how many other women are going through this at work every day?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/03/2024 16:33

Boiledbeetle · 05/03/2024 16:14

For every one woman like Cath Walton I wonder how many other women are going through this at work every day?

Tens? hundreds of thousands, millions I expect ? Bullied out of knowing facts, science and reality. Bullied out of safeguarding our children. Bullied out of our right to privacy and safety from men when undressing or otherwise vulnerable.

Women haven't asked for any of this - not anywhere in the world have women campaigned to have unknown men join us when undressing, showering, in hospital wards and prisons etc.

It's all imposed on us.

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2024 19:03

Re McCarthyism.

The Tories are trying to pass a bill about widening the parameters of extremism. Except they can't decide on the definition. There is apparently concern that GC feminists could fall foul of it because of it 'harming another group'.

The bonkers bit is this overlooks tra harms to women!

New posts on this thread. Refresh page