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Paedophile secretly filmed women in public toilet and sexually assaulted tourist on Durham city bridge - identifies as trans

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fromorbit · 02/03/2024 08:50

The thing that never happens has happened AGAIN.

A paedophile who filmed women in public toilets and sexually assaulted a tourist on a bridge has been locked up.

Kurtis Mawson was spotted inside female toilets near the Odeon at Millburngate shopping centre in Durham city. The 22-year-old was inside a closed cubicle and was standing on the toilet looking into the next cubicle.

Durham Crown Court heard how the member of the public who saw him on May 5, 2022 contacted police 10.48am and kept watch until they arrived. They also ushered a group of young women out of the toilets.

Liam OBrien, prosecuting, told the court how Mawson was still inside the toilet cubicle when police arrived and an officer asked if anybody was in there. In an attempt to conceal his identity, Mawson put on a high pitched voice and answering "Yeah".

The prosecutor said one of the officers climbed on top of a toilet to continue a conversation with him. He said: "When challenged with what he is doing in a women's toilet he said: 'Just chilling'. He then said he was there as he identified as female."

When police arrested him, they found him in possession of a mobile phone and a digital camera. He had recorded material of women using the toilet.

Mr OBrien told the court: "One of the officers expressed at one stage 'What's wrong with you?'. The defendant answered 'There is something wrong with me, I need help'.

Mawson told police he had purchased a mini camera specifically for recording women and had hidden inside a toilet cubicle until someone entered the stall next to him so he could film them.

The court in Durham heard how Mawson's home was searched and and a number of digital devices, including a computer and it's hard drive, were seized. They were found to contain indecent images of children.

A further computer device was then seized from Mawson, which contained more indecent images of children.

Mr OBrien said there were 80 category category A images - the most serious - as well as category B and C images. There was also an extreme pornographic image of a person engaging in an act with a dog.

In June last year, while on police bail, Mawson committed a sex act next to a tourist who was taking a picture of Durham Cathedral from a bridge in Durham. During the act, he subjected the woman to a sexual assault.

Mr OBrien said: "She was incredibly distressed. She didn't know what to with herself. She asked a number of passers by for help."

In a victim impact statement, which Mr OBrien read to the court, the woman said: "This was my first time visiting Durham. I was excited to see the cathedral. But this incident has made me feel shocked and speechless."

She said that it made her no longer want to wear a skirt or shorts again, adding: "I do not want this to happen to anybody else."

Mawson, who appeared in court via video link to prison, also went on to breach a sexual harm order and the sex offenders register. He did this by setting up three accounts on dating websites Hinge, Bumble and Tinder without informing police.

He also used an alias to set up a profile on a gaming website called Steam, in which users can communicate, without telling officers. He called himself 'Patrick Bateman' after the fictional character in horror film American Psycho.

Mawson, High Street, Willington, County Durham, pleaded guilty to sexual assault on a female, voyeurism, three counts of making indecent photographs of a child and possessing an extreme pornographic image. He also admitted breaching a sexual risk order and failing to comply with the sexual offender register.

Brian Mark, defending, told the court that Mawson, who has slight Asperger's Syndrome, admits responsibly for his actions and apologises to the victims. He said: "He acknowledges that he needs serious help.

"What he does need is not just to be sent to a prison, receive no help or proper courses and then be thrown out. That would not assist society, it would not assist the court.

"What he wants is to have treatment so when he comes out of prison he's not going to go back to prison."

His barrister told the court that he is now disgusted by the videos and the pictures. He added: "He doesn't want to do that again. He never wants to behave in that way again. He said it's disgusting behaviour, behaviour he doesn't want to repeat."

Judge Joanne Kidd told Mawson that the offences he committed represent a pattern of "disturbing sexualised behaviour".

In relation to the sexual assault, the judge said: "You were extremely sexually preoccupied. You targeted a lone woman standing on a bridge in the middle of the day." She told him he had no consideration of the risk, which was a extremely concerning feature.

Judge Kidd sentenced him to 25 months in prison. She told him that he will be subject to notification and a sexual harm prevention order for a period of 10 years.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/paedophile-secretly-filmed-women-public-28737673

Paedophile secretly filmed women in toilet and sexually assaulted tourist

Kurtis Mawson, 22, has now been put behind bars for 25 months

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/paedophile-secretly-filmed-women-public-28737673

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DuesToTheDirt · 02/03/2024 11:08

RinklyRomaine · 02/03/2024 09:45

Anti trans my fat arse.

THIS is why these signs are so very dangerous.

Bloody hell that stinks.

(I seem to be swearing more and more on this board!)

pickledandpuzzled · 02/03/2024 11:08

Reasonable precautions-
keep men out of women’s spaces.
don’t prosecute people for telling the truth
listen to people’s concerns
trust your gut
never trust a liar or someone you know is pretending to be something they aren’t

I could go on.

99point6 · 02/03/2024 11:09

The only actual precaution that would 100% avoid this would be to never use a public toilet, public transport, changing room ...

pickledandpuzzled · 02/03/2024 11:12

‘He said that to avoid being arrested’.

  1. I thought we believe people are what they say they are? How can I tell the difference between someone who ‘just said that’ to help them commit a crime, and someone who is genuinely trans?
  1. You know all those people who ‘just want to pee’? Some of the don’t just want to pee. Some of them want to film women, wank because they are enjoying themselves in the women’s spaces, and raid the san bins. We know this because they tell us- note point 1.
DuesToTheDirt · 02/03/2024 11:12

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 09:22

Hes a deviant and sexual predator. Obviously mentally not ok. He was using every trick to avoid arrest
Still no reason to be anti trans

Your logic fails you. If we say we don't want men in women's toilets, is that anti-men? Of course not. If we say we don't want transwomen in women's toilets, is that anti-trans? Of course not.

Cailin66 · 02/03/2024 11:12

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 09:22

Hes a deviant and sexual predator. Obviously mentally not ok. He was using every trick to avoid arrest
Still no reason to be anti trans

But he’s trans. You need to be kind to him. And stop being trans phobic.

OvaHere · 02/03/2024 11:12

This case isnt a trans person .... he just shouted that to try to dodge arrest ....

Women have been pointing out for a long time that all kinds of nefarious men will have cottoned on to self identification.

He is as much trans as the next man who says he's trans and the all the men before him. That's the crux of self identification. You are what you say you are.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/03/2024 11:13

99point6 · 02/03/2024 11:09

The only actual precaution that would 100% avoid this would be to never use a public toilet, public transport, changing room ...

But a precaution with a really high success rate is to keep all men, however they identify, out

MissingMoominMamma · 02/03/2024 11:14

Fucking convenient that he decided that he was confused when he was caught, eh?

Boiledbeetle · 02/03/2024 11:15

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 10:57

How do you tell the difference between a great dad and an abusive one ?

If you allow yourself to live in fear then you are Steeling from the pleasure of living

Just take reasonable precautions. This case isnt a trans person .... he just shouted that to try to dodge arrest ....

At what point does a person become trans though?

It was at one point if they say they are then they are. No ifs, no buts. So what's changed?

How do you know he only said it to dodge arrest?

How do you know he isn't actually truly trans?

Come on? How can we know? How can we know which of the people who say they are trans actually are and which are just saying it for whatever reason, be that to justify being in a space they aren't supposed to be in, or because they want a medal in cycling but aren't good enough to win one as a man.

Why do you get to say this man isn't trans? Isn't that rather transphobic and anti trans of you Maddy? Are you actually trying to gatekeep transness?

How do I take reasonable precautions to only be in a women only space with the men who say they are trans and actually are as opposed to those men who say they are trans and aren't.

Come on Maddy tell us how to do that.

AuContraire · 02/03/2024 11:17

ClutchingOurBananas · 02/03/2024 09:00

But he doesn’t even identify as trans.

This is purely an example of a man up to no good drawing upon ‘I identify as female’ to try to get away with being in the women’s loos to gain access to victims.

Obviously this matters a great deal and indicates that ridiculous claims that no man would lie about being trans in order to gain access to victims that people use when arguing for selfID.

This is a pretty obvious example of how men with ill intent can and will use the concept of trans to enable or get away with their crimes.

He said he did identify as a woman.

Therefore, he's as much of a transwoman as any other transwoman.

Sorry, we didn't make the rules.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 02/03/2024 11:21

NecessaryScene · 02/03/2024 11:04

Just take reasonable precautions.

The reasonable precaution is no men in women's spaces.

Exactly.

This particular case is my region. An area that I know and love. At present, my 'reasonable precautions' are that myself and my vulnerable (Autistic) 12 year old DD don't use public toilets, so limit our time out and about. Life is already difficult to navigate due to sensory issues etc, but our world is now becoming smaller due to men 'popping up' in women's spaces. That 'wrong bathroom' poster linked to and similar are cropping up everywhere. "Don't challenge them, Protect them from harm" Fuck Off. My instinct as a woman and mother is ro protect myself and my child from harm. Very Real Harm. Fuck anyone else and their spurious needs.

It's dangerous. All enabled in the name of Be Kind. Peddled and enabled by schools and organisations everywhere.

Yet still some people don't get it.

LakeTiticaca · 02/03/2024 11:22

afternoonoflife · 02/03/2024 09:41

That woman was amazing.

I feel sort of bleak when these young men are arrested. Does any kind of reform work for sex offenders? You just think they’ve got a whole adult life to keep doing this stuff and potentially escalate.

Yeah chopping their tackle off would be a start

KohlaParasaurus · 02/03/2024 11:22

TeaAndStrumpets · 02/03/2024 09:18

"Slight Asperger's Syndrome"

Give me strength.

Quite!

nutmeg7 · 02/03/2024 11:23

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 10:57

How do you tell the difference between a great dad and an abusive one ?

If you allow yourself to live in fear then you are Steeling from the pleasure of living

Just take reasonable precautions. This case isnt a trans person .... he just shouted that to try to dodge arrest ....

So that just swerved the question with stuff about dads(????)

So one more time, given this person is a complete stranger to me, how do I tell the difference between a trans woman and a male sexual predator who is pretending to be a trans woman?

what precautions should I be taking?

Dumbo12 · 02/03/2024 11:25

Surely being male is the first prerequisite of being any sort of dad, good or bad, it is then a matter of perception, or personal belief as to the quality of dadness. How do you tell a bad man in women's spaces, by his very presence

pickledandpuzzled · 02/03/2024 11:25

The only reasonable precaution now is just to stay home. I don’t think Maddy wants that though. If the women’s toilets don’t have women in them, is it even worth going?

Helleofabore · 02/03/2024 11:26

DuesToTheDirt · 02/03/2024 11:12

Your logic fails you. If we say we don't want men in women's toilets, is that anti-men? Of course not. If we say we don't want transwomen in women's toilets, is that anti-trans? Of course not.

I suspect logic fails are quite common. Considering that they tried to use ‘abusive dads’ as some kind of comparator. WTAF????

heathspeedwell · 02/03/2024 11:33

A predatory man knew he could stroll into women's toilets and harass women because he knew he could simply claim a trans identity.

This is precisely why NO MEN - however they identify - should be allowed into women's spaces. There are far too many perverted men around ready to take advantage.

Soontobe60 · 02/03/2024 11:33

ClutchingOurBananas · 02/03/2024 09:00

But he doesn’t even identify as trans.

This is purely an example of a man up to no good drawing upon ‘I identify as female’ to try to get away with being in the women’s loos to gain access to victims.

Obviously this matters a great deal and indicates that ridiculous claims that no man would lie about being trans in order to gain access to victims that people use when arguing for selfID.

This is a pretty obvious example of how men with ill intent can and will use the concept of trans to enable or get away with their crimes.

So the question I would ask is, ‘How do you know who are the ‘genuine’ trans males, and who are the copy-cat trans males that are out to commit sex acts?
Until anyone can come up with an acceptable answer to that question, then no one should be accepting males, regardless of their self identity, into single sex women’s spaces.

Soontobe60 · 02/03/2024 11:35

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 09:22

Hes a deviant and sexual predator. Obviously mentally not ok. He was using every trick to avoid arrest
Still no reason to be anti trans

Having re read all the posts previous to yours, not one of them is ‘anti trans’. Your comprehension skills are sadly lacking.

Soontobe60 · 02/03/2024 11:40

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 10:57

How do you tell the difference between a great dad and an abusive one ?

If you allow yourself to live in fear then you are Steeling from the pleasure of living

Just take reasonable precautions. This case isnt a trans person .... he just shouted that to try to dodge arrest ....

AFAIC, a ‘reasonable precaution’ is to not allow any males into single sex spaces. Job done!

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/03/2024 11:42

TeaAndStrumpets · 02/03/2024 09:18

"Slight Asperger's Syndrome"

Give me strength.

This pees me off!

there are many people of both sexes who have Asperger's syndrome/ Autism - "slight" or otherwise. They don't go around assaulting people and accessing pornographic images of children and animals.

As others have said - he isn't "disgusted" with the images or his own behaviour - he was just hoping for a shorted sentence, or none at all.

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/03/2024 11:48

Maddy70 · 02/03/2024 09:22

Hes a deviant and sexual predator. Obviously mentally not ok. He was using every trick to avoid arrest
Still no reason to be anti trans

We aren't "anti-trans" - we are pro-women. There's a difference.

Women have different toilet facilities to men not only for reasons of dignity and privacy, but, importantly, because SOME men can't be trusted.

Trans identifying men are still men - born male - so by definition SOME can't be trusted. Unfortunately the "good" ones can't be distinguished from the "bad", so in the same way that we keep ALL adult males out of female spaces, we need to keep ALL trans identifying men out of female spaces.

Trans identifying women are welcome in female spaces, because we are not "anti-trans" - we are pro-women.

yourhairiswinterfire · 02/03/2024 11:52

Just take reasonable precautions.

We're trying to, and then people like you start crying about it being 'anti-trans' to keep all males out of women's spaces. We get stupid posters and signs telling us we should mind our own business and basically stfu if there's a man in women's toilets. That rhetoric enables perverted pricks like this one.

Please lecture men that they should respect women's boundaries and stay the fuck out of spaces they're not welcome in instead of coming on a feminist forum and telling women that we should 'just take precautions' to not get sexually assaulted or filmed on the toilet by men.