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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Help with primary school

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HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 11:44

Our children's primary school has a big notice board up in their hallway with the protected characteristics listed on it, except it has gender instead of sex. I have sent a polite email to them with the correct terminology and a link to the EA legislation. They have come back to say that they are choosing to use gender in order to stop children confusing it with the sexual act and to make it more understandable for the children's age/stage. I'm not particularly good with words, or at least not with using them in a polite way on this subject. Can anyone help or point in the direction of some guidance to send? It's just wrong in several directions at once.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 28/02/2024 11:47

Is it, by any chance, a poster from No Outsiders?

There are a couple of long running threads about their materials, and the exact same error, that you may find useful.

HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 11:51

No, I think it was made in-house. I'll have a look for those threads anyway. They might have some good points. Thanks.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/02/2024 11:58

Well done for picking this up OP. Do they call the list the protected characteristics? If so, it's not up to them to deceive anyone about the law and change it to suit their prejudices /anxieties.
I'd be challenging them about their role as educators. Schools need to be places of facts, science accuracy. Suggesting that the word "sex" can be replaced by gender is inaccurate. Children need to understand that the use of the word sex is a scientific category and they need to learn to use it accurately in different situations.

HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 12:04

Thanks, @MrsOvertonsWindow, I couldn't remember the name of that organisation. They do call them the protected characteristics, but don't name the Equality Act on the display.

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Tallisker · 28/02/2024 12:14

Tell them they are not allowed to change the wording of an Act of Parliament to suit themselves.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/02/2024 12:25

HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 12:04

Thanks, @MrsOvertonsWindow, I couldn't remember the name of that organisation. They do call them the protected characteristics, but don't name the Equality Act on the display.

Then it's easy. Gender is not a protected characteristic and a school should not change the law because they go all Victorian over the use of the word sex.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 28/02/2024 13:10

Suggest they word it 'Sex, meaning male or female'

NoBinturongsHereMate · 28/02/2024 13:11

Calling it gender also risks confusion with the separate characteristic of gender reassignment.

HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 13:24

Safe Schools Alliance has a letter template regarding this very thing! I'm going to use part of it, and bits from posters here, along with my own words. Thanks everyone! I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes.

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AlisonDonut · 28/02/2024 13:31

Do primary kids even need to know about the Equality Act Protected Characteristics? Is it likely that one kid will take another to the European Court of Human Rights over some sort of Discrimination?

Vebrithien · 28/02/2024 13:53

Hi @HarimadSol

I'm the poster with the long running threads about my DDs school showing a No Outsiders poster, that replaces the protected characteristic of sex, with gender.

I will find the email I sent, and copy it again here, with the references I included.

Some of it will not be relevant, as my reply was about an email also sent by No Outsiders, but it will have the arguments and evidence I used to show why the correct term should be used.

And yes @AlisonDonut , all primary and secondary school students are meant to know the 9 protected characteristics. Secondary students have to be able to name them all, and primary schools are required by law to teach the 9 protected characteristics.

Vebrithien · 28/02/2024 14:00

A matter of concern
Dear Deputy Head

Thank you for your email, dated 26/01/2023.

On the 11th of January, we discussed the No Outsiders posters displayed in school, which show nine attributes or categories of people that are welcome in the school, and who are "equal". Eight of these attributes/categories are the EA 2010 protected characteristics, with their exact wording in law. The ninth category, which in law is "sex" has been replaced with "gender", which has no current definition in law.

My first concern is that this is at odds with the 2020 Department of Education RSE guidance, which states that outside agencies and resources must be checked by the school, to ensure that they comply with the Equality Act 2010. (A)

Please see below for excerpts, references and source links.

My second concern is that No Outsiders appears to have a political agenda, as shown by the investigation by Shelley Charlesworth, hosted by Transgender Trend (B). This investigation highlights the deliberate conflation of sex and gender, as well as Andrew Moffat's involvement as a co-presenter of a paper entitled "Queering the Body: Queering Primary Education". From the communication from the external provider, to the school, I would suggest that by saying "Everytime I re-order I do consider changing the gender bubble to a sex bubble", the external provider is acknowledging that they are aware the current poster is incorrect. By asking the school "(if you) think we should change the gender bubble in future" (back to sex)", it is to be noted that the external provider has clearly devolved a final opinion of this matter to the school, as though to remove liability from themselves.

Schools have a legal duty to remain politically impartial, and must not promote partisan political views, but should offer a balanced presentation of opposing views (C). Are there any resources used in school which highlight the importance, and protected status, of biological sex? As an initial step, there should be posters on display that correctly show the 9 protected characteristics of the Equality Act. Safe Schools Alliance have produced a free, downloadable copy, as an example of best practice (D). I am aware of schools who have removed the No Outsiders posters, due to parental complaints about their inaccuracy. The inclusion of sex as a protected characteristic in the Equality Act directly addresses the issue that people can be discriminated against due to their sex

It is important that young children are taught to use clear, defined language, to describe themselves and the world around them. Sex is not just whether a child is a boy or a girl. Sex is the difference between a cow and a bull, whether you will get an apple off your tree or a courgette off your plant. Sex is why we need bees and other pollinators. In comparison, definitions of gender by Stonewall (E), the UK Government (F) and the World Health Organisation (G) are all different, and all highlight how there is a social and cultural impact on how gender is understood.
If children cannot clearly describe their world and body, it places cracks in their safeguarding, especially with the most vulnerable children. From your own safeguarding policy, you state that "We give special consideration to children who:

have special educational needs or disabilities (SEND) or health conditions
may experience discrimination due to their race, ethnicity, religion, gender identification or sexuality
have English as an additional language (EAL)
are at risk of FGM, sexual exploitation, forced marriage, or radicalisation

By conflating sex and gender, this discriminates against students with SEND and EAL, who have an exceptional requirement for clear and defined language. In your own SEND policy, it is stated that "We recognise that it is necessary to ensure that the school’s curriculum is accessible to all children" and "Particular attention is given to those who may struggle to communicate with adults." Likewise, as gender is variously defined as having a social and cultural determination, the use of gender rather than sex discriminates against students of a different race, culture or ethnicity. It also does not allow for the clear safeguarding of female children at risk of FGM.

While I agree that the messages of equality and inclusion are important and such behaviour should be encouraged in school, I feel that accurate language around this is vital for the reasons stated above.

Consequently, I would like to see the school replace the misleading No Outsiders posters either with accurate EA posters such as the one from Safe Schools Alliance linked above.
Alternatively, it may be more appropriate to use something else entirely, with a more general message of us all being equal despite our differences.

I look forward to hearing from you,

References

A.

"When deciding on the external agencies and resources to use, you should make appropriate checks to ensure that the agencies’ approach to teaching relationships education, relationships and sex education and health education and the resources that they plan to use comply with:

the Equality Act 2010"

Source: Department for Education, Guidance; planning your relationship, sex and health education curriculum, September 2020

Link: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies

Last accessed on: 24/01/2023

B.

Source: No Outsiders: Queering the Primary Classroom , Transgender Trend, April 2019

Link: https://www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

Last accessed on: 28/01/2023

C.

Source: Department for Education, Guidance; Political impartiality in schools, February 2022

Link: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/political-impartiality-in-schools

Last accessed on: 28/01/2023

D.

Source: Safe Schools Alliance, Equality Act Protected Characteristics Poster

Link: https://safeschoolallianceuk.net/resources-2/factsheets/

Last accessed on: 28/01/2023

E.
Stonewall definition of gender; "Often expressed in terms of masculinity and femininity, gender is largely culturally determined and is assumed from the sex assigned at birth."

Source: List of LGBTQ terms, Stonewall

Link: https://www.stonewall.org.uk/list-lgbtq-terms

Last accessed on: 30/01/2023

F.

UK Government definition of gender; "a social construction relating to behaviours and attributes based on labels of masculinity and femininity"

Source: What is the difference between sex and gender? Office for National Statistics, UK Government, Feb 2019

Link: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21

Last accessed on: 30/01/2023

G.
WHO definition of gender; "refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with others. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time. Gender is hierarchical and produces inequalities."

Source: Gender, Health Topics, World Health Organisation

Link: https://www.who.int/europe/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

Last accessed on: 30/01/2023

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/02/2024 14:15

Quite unbelievable that parents need to educate schools about all this. Just shows how allying with Stonewall can turn an institution into an incoherent mess pushing fantasy instead of facts to children - shame on them.

HarimadSol · 28/02/2024 14:48

Vebrithien, that's brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing that.

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Vebrithien · 28/02/2024 15:34

You are absolutely welcome @HarimadSol

I posted it on my thread, so that anyone who wanted to use bits of it, or some of the references, would have access to it.

To be fair, the school have now changed the poster, but we are still massively concerned about the gender identity books and messages that the school are presenting as fact.

AlisonDonut · 28/02/2024 16:11

Vebrithien · 28/02/2024 13:53

Hi @HarimadSol

I'm the poster with the long running threads about my DDs school showing a No Outsiders poster, that replaces the protected characteristic of sex, with gender.

I will find the email I sent, and copy it again here, with the references I included.

Some of it will not be relevant, as my reply was about an email also sent by No Outsiders, but it will have the arguments and evidence I used to show why the correct term should be used.

And yes @AlisonDonut , all primary and secondary school students are meant to know the 9 protected characteristics. Secondary students have to be able to name them all, and primary schools are required by law to teach the 9 protected characteristics.

Well they aren't otherwise they would quite the law, wouldn't they?

I think this insertion of legal issues is being given to kids as far too young an age. Kids cannot possibly understand the context of EU law in primary school. Maybe once they can all read, write and understand basic maths but we appear to be missing the basics to concentrate on training up little activists.

HarimadSol · 01/03/2024 10:15

Update: the school has acquiesced. They are going to change the display and subsequent teaching. I am so pleased.

While I'm here, I'd just like to say thank you to everyone on FWR. I'm usually just a reader here, but it's all of you who made me brave enough to challenge this in real life.

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Vebrithien · 01/03/2024 10:45

Oh that is amazing @HarimadSol

Well done!

What do you think was the main factor that made them change their mind?

HarimadSol · 01/03/2024 11:33

I really don't know. I was quite firm and made a few points in my second message to them, so any or all of them might have done the trick. I'm hoping there's at least a teacher or two that are quietly onside, but I have no idea.

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