Gender surgeon saying the quiet part out loud

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Sorry if there's already a thread. A gender surgeon seems to have said some of the bits they don't say out loud, at a WPATH sponsored event, and been recorded doing so:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13092239/Top-Canadian-surgeon-unwittingly-reveals-TRUTH-sex-change-ops-unearthed-video-lifts-lid-ill-trained-doctors-dying-appendages-dreaded-complications.html#article-13092239

Thank you OldCrone that was exactly the one I was thinking of.

Christ that’s awful

Transwomen in their own words. Horrible stuff. (Video in link.)

https://twitter.com/atheistathenian/status/1759731181874975172?t=P_ou3tKuzYYqmZGzAN6Giw&s=19

Transmen talking about complications

https://twitter.com/atheistathenian/status/1759727209982345507?t=90Ac1cKT7nw8n9b8MTNXkA&s=19

They're all so young 😔

Rights of Passage and Demonstrations of Faith often involve some sort of endurance challenge or physical process which involves pain.

This is everything from barefoot pilgrimages, cross carrying, coming of age ceremonies, to outdated idea that women must suffer during child birth.

These are all cultural and religious beliefs which can often mired in harmful and sometimes dangerous beliefs.

Just saying.

'First do no harm.'

^Well that's truly been thrown in the bin now. I've looked into the complications previously and the word 'necrosis' is mentioned an alarming amount of times. It is just so fundamentally wrong to take a healthy body and do these surgeries when they are so brutal and the complications - which are common - are so horrific. It's not evidence based medicine and is therefore substandard compared to other areas of medicine.

That's heartbreaking to listen to. It's almost as if these women weren't accurately informed about the experimental nature of their surgery and the many complications that can arise. I'm certainly not seeing any trans euphoria going on in that video.

The Reddit r/phallo sub is eye opening and not in a good way. It’s not for the faint hearted. I don’t know what’s worse: the people who realise things have gone wrong, or the ones who are pretending it hasn’t.

https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/s/mWHPvEntfR

I remember reading about this case at the time. I'm sure there was something about why they went for transplant rather than phalloplasty in the article I read, but I haven't found that in my search just now.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/articles/2018/04/first-ever-penis-and-scrotum-transplant-makes-history-at-johns-hopkins

Of course, the text in the linked article states: 'There are no immediate plans to use the procedure for gender reassignment operations.'

I wonder how many people are hoping that transplants become available as part of gender affirming care in the future?

Oh, that sub is a real horror show, I feel so sad for those poor people.

All victims in their own way of all this nonsense.

Yes, just kids! Like it says, it's heart-breaking. The 'surgeons' who carry out these procedures are bloody criminals in my book. They are no different to 'cultural' FGM butchers.

Dr Phil, of all people, has spoken out against gender affirming care.

JUST IN: Dr. Phil calls out gender affirming care and warns of the long term impacts of pushing transgenderism on children.

America needs more of this Dr. Phil.
“It's interesting. They choose words like, gender affirming care. That's interesting that they call it that. But really what they're talking about is hormonal therapy or s*x reassignment surgery on children,” he said to Joe Rogan.

“When I ask about that… then they immediately label you as transphobic.”
“If you look at the long-term consequences, if someone changes their mind at 10, 11, 12, 13 years old… they can't decide which pajamas they wanna wear at night.”

“Their reason for doing it is it stops this drive for suicide. That there's a suicide epidemic. It doesn't fix that.”

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1760036025718714850?t=aZ1nKPGEIQJ6Ki58FS5IBA&s=19

Dr Phil is a Republican though (he is cagey about admitting it, but does acknowledge he is conservative), so he isn’t breaking ranks.

It would be awesome if he could bring Oprah to the GC fold though.

Watching I am Jazz is pretty disturbing, I can't quite believe it's on TV. The surgeons are pretty open about the experimental nature of it all. Poor Jazz. The parents express doubts and were not prepared for the experimental nature of it, nor the horrendous (and easily predictable) complications. At one point the surgeons are filmed arguing about incisions during surgery, on a child's genitals. How this doesn't breach all kind of medical safeguards and ethics I don't know. But obviously it's too late now, there's no going back. So on they go. It's heartbreaking watching it.