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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What can we do to get the best we can for women from the next government?

11 replies

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/02/2024 23:49

It's a GE year and the government will be changing soon. Fortunately we have at least 3 months to plan.Grin What practical ways can we use our voices and our votes to improve the lives of women in the UK?

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Rightsraptor · 09/02/2024 08:13

Vote Posie.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2024 08:17

You do you

If you want them take ownership and lobby for change yourself

Holeinamole · 09/02/2024 08:25

Write to your MP?

fromorbit · 09/02/2024 08:55

1 - Form or support a local GC group in your constituency ASP. Start meeting in person now. Go to hustings, do demos LOCALLY. Get publicity. Write/meet local press community groups, churches, mosques etc. Target all parties. Obviously question candidates individually if doorstopped, but to have an impact we need to do way more stuff in groups. Note this would parallel the successful local campaigns suffragettes did in general elections in the 1900s before getting the vote. Normal political campaigning was derailed by pesky women turning up demanding to have rights.

2 - Make sure that every CANDIDATE in your constituency goes on record over their support for or against women/gay rights. Ask difficult questions about prisons, sports, Cass report etc make them squirm. Then tell people what they said on mumsnet/twitter/websites.

3 Support gender crit groups and politicians inside political parties Labour/Lib Dem/Green Women's Declaration/Conservatives For Women who will be doing their bit. Labour Womens Dec are going to be vital in attempting to take down any TRA plans from the inside of Labour. Hopefully Ali Shahrar will win today which will make that easier.

4 - Vote/Campaign for candidates in your constituency who seem worth supporting. This could include pro-women parties like Alba, KJKs party, the SDP etc. Or vote/campaign for parties based on other issues like economy, crime etc. To be frank your personal vote is the least impactful part of this though.

What we need to do is to ensure women/gay rights are a part of this election, not as a Tory vs Labour issue, but as an issue for all parties. The whole Sunak/Starmer thing of the last few days is not helpful. If it turns into pure party political spectacle then it will become a way of avoiding difficult issues.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/02/2024 11:18

Thanks everyone.

I think communication with the Party rather than individual MPs is the way forward as many MPs are standing down or will be losing their seat.

The Tory vs Labour shite we've had over the past days is nothing but a pointless sideshow. Also the Tories will lose the next election. We need to target those who will make up the next government.

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Gagagardener · 10/02/2024 18:45

Bump. This thread could change things: it offers women up and down the UK a place to make plans, debate ways and means, decide on priorities. Real democracy!

lifeturnsonadime · 14/02/2024 08:59

Over from another thread at the request of OP.

I agree with @fromorbit .

When it comes to lobbying on the current position there's a slightly different emphasis because as @TooBigForMyBoots says Also the Tories will lose the next election. We need to target those who will make up the next government.

There's also a slight difference in the current position as the Tories , via Kemi Badenoch appear to be recommending changes to the Equality Act to protect single sex spaces but the Labour party are saying they are not necessary.
So, when speaking to the Tories about this, emphasis can be on can this be done before Labour potentially win the GE as this will be hard for them to then row back on. Removing rights will be a worse look for Labour than maintaining the status Quo.

On speaking to the Labour Party the emphasis needs to be how can we ensure single sex spaces without amending the Equality Act after the Haldane judgement? which gives a trans women the protect of both the protected characteristics of sex (legal sex of female) and gender reassignment which means that service providers are likely to face successful claims of discrimination under the Equality Act if they refuse to allow a 'legal woman' to use the space. Given that service providers in the main, cannot ask for evidence of the GRC, this will allow de facto self ID to continue.

Meadowy · 14/02/2024 09:06

Not voting Labour! Or Green! Or SNP!!

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/02/2024 14:24

During the last Council Elections I found that telling candidates what I want then asking them how they'll deliver it worked well. I started with with "the Tories have destroyed women's rights" and ended with "what will your party do to fix this and safeguard women and children"? It worked well. For a start most of them were unaware this was a Tory thing and all the parties here are not Tory fans.

I don't want to make them squirm or feel like I'm attacking them.

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Froodwithatowel · 15/02/2024 14:44

Raise merry hell and keep raising it. Support court cases. As the safeguarding disasters roll in (and they are going to keep on a-rolling) write again to your MP and the newspapers. Challenge every time you get a form that has forced you to state a belief you do not yourself choose to hold, or when a school or organisation demonstrates capture, bias and exclusion of heretics.

Which ever government gets in, this won't go away, it's just going to go on getting bigger and louder.

BroadBeer · 19/06/2024 15:48

I feel this in my bones. I don’t want to vote conservative or reform, but I also feel completely abandoned by the left. I’m told I’m a transphobe, racist, intolerant- which just isn’t true. I just want me, my daughter and all our daughters to be supported and the only place I can get that is by going right.

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