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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Response to my complaint about the London Bridge Pride Pillar

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AlphariusOmegron · 05/02/2024 15:51

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the Pride Pillar at London Bridge, a temporary installation to mark the start of LGBT+ History Month this February.

We are a diverse and inclusive organisation and the Pride Pillar was designed by our station colleagues as a creative and colourful way to show that everyone who works in and uses the station is welcome. Being more representative of the communities we serve is a priority for us, and we never intended for anyone to feel excluded by this display. Women and those of other genders and identities are welcome at all our stations and were involved in planning the Pride Pillar design.

There’s no doubt the display has generated a lot of discussion. We’ve carefully considered the feedback we’ve received over the last week, as well as taking on board the views of our colleagues. Having done so, and as we said when we launched the Pillar, it will remain in place at the station for the duration of February and will be removed as planned at the end of the month.

We acknowledge that this decision may cause some further upset. However, it’s in that spirt of recognising differing viewpoints that we’ve chosen to keep the artwork in place and reaffirm our commitment to diversity and inclusion, and we will, of course, reflect on all the feedback we’ve received when planning future initiatives in stations. We’ve also heard some very serious language misattributing various meanings to some of the community flags displayed, which we don’t consider justified.

We’re committed to becoming more diverse, inclusive and genuinely progressive. In Southern region, we're proud of our workforce who work tirelessly to run a safe and reliable railway for everyone, whatever their background – and doing so will remain our top priority. Indeed, we have ongoing recruitment campaigns to address gender inequality in frontline roles (like female signallers) and active employee networks to support colleagues from diverse backgrounds.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us. So that we can continue providing timely responses to all our customers, this reply sets out our final position, and we won’t engage further on this subject.

Yours sincerely,
Community relations – Southern region

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Brefugee · 05/02/2024 20:12

LWSnow · 05/02/2024 16:01

I don't know, what would you say to the ombudsman

that they completely ignored the specific points/questions and replied with the same letter they sent to all complainants.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 05/02/2024 20:18

I guess their lawyer wrote them something to cut and paste.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 05/02/2024 20:28

Rightsraptor · 05/02/2024 16:20

I wonder what 'We’ve also heard some very serious language misattributing various meanings to some of the community flags displayed, which we don’t consider justified' actually alludes to?

What is 'serious language'? It's an odd phrase. And those 'misattributions' - I'm wondering if Southern Region trains, or whoever they are, have any idea of the reality behind some of these flags or do they think they're just pretty 'artwork'? Not that many of them are pretty. Or artwork, either.

They mean that Network Rail is Very Upset and Offended that people saw the unfamiliar polyamory flag (a community that is mostly straight people) with its pi symbol, and thought it might be the "MAP" flag.

PatatiPatatras · 05/02/2024 21:42

That pi symbol is a strong contender for the stupidest part. Of all the symbols to choose for polyamoury, they chose the one closest to PIE...
Lack of consultation and diverse thought much?

soupycustard · 05/02/2024 21:54

I've often felt very victimised by society frowning on me shagging randoms on a train platform so I for one am very glad that polyamorous people of all genders are being welcomed and included by a flagpillar. Now I'll go to that station. Even though I don't need to go to that station.

SunflowerSeeds123 · 05/02/2024 22:01

Sticker the bd thing. It's not "art" it's a political statement which has no place in a railway station.

I work in public transport and the industry is obsessed with Stonewall rankings and PR. Never mind women and girls are assaulted on National Rail every fucking day.

fiskoo · 05/02/2024 22:18

It's really pissed me off too. But they're taking it down end of Feb right? So hopefully they learn from this and don't do anything so stupid and wasteful again.

puncheur · 05/02/2024 22:24

PaleBlueMoonlight · 05/02/2024 18:30

No, but you could do an FOI request.

FOI requests are only for public institutions. Govia (who own Southern) are a private company, and a French one at that.

ArabellaScott · 05/02/2024 22:51

dapsnotplimsolls · 05/02/2024 19:12

It would serve them right if some swingers decided to ... swing near the flag.

Yes. Rainbow dildo butt plug monkey plus a wheen of drag queens twerking and various pups on leashes with pet police.

The trouble is, I know they'd smile and applaud.

SapphireSeptember · 06/02/2024 13:12

It needs some nice stickers and a suffragette flag. 😁

Meanwhile as the train companies like to blather on about inclusion, why won't they give me a bloody job? 😠

HoneyButterPopcorn · 06/02/2024 13:20

Maybe you are competent 😉

aname1234 · 06/02/2024 13:48

Hmm it does look like they're bending (but not caving) to the complaints. Solution: they need more complaints!

Brefugee · 06/02/2024 14:45

how are they bending?

Froodwithatowel · 06/02/2024 14:56

ArabellaScott · 05/02/2024 22:51

Yes. Rainbow dildo butt plug monkey plus a wheen of drag queens twerking and various pups on leashes with pet police.

The trouble is, I know they'd smile and applaud.

Of course what we really need is the twerking drag queens, the rainbow dildo butt plug monkey, the pet play guys with erections in their masks being patted, the bunch of rape and murder threatening political representatives in their just escaped from the KitKat Club of Cabaret outfits, AND a few ordinary women standing around murmuring mildly 'adult human female' and 'lesbians don't have penises'.

And the general public can watch the screams, assaults and arrests of said ordinary women.

And reflect on how we now all appear to be living inside a really, really badly run, unethical and low rent BDSM club. Where the bouncers are off their tits.

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2024 15:43

a really, really badly run, unethical and low rent BDSM club

With signs in untranslated Klingon. And MPs dressed as drag queens waving pom poms. And the BBC sending a special reporter to interview the furries for Newsround. And the soundtrack is Jordan Grey singing how he's better than women and playing the piano with his cock.

LWSnow · 06/02/2024 16:01

Hey don't bring the Klingons into this!!
They are an honourable race.

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