Football fan banned over GC posts after ‘Stasi’ Premier league investigation

[Justme56]

https://freespeechunion.org/football-fan-banned-over-gender-critical-posts-after-stasi-premier-league-investigation/

There is an article about this in the Telegraph but I don’t have an archived version so have posted this from the FSU site.

This has been covered in another thread a while ago but this is an updated story covering details on how the Premier League got involved! - There is a video floating around too.

Awful. Truly awful. It cannot be legal, surely. Surely?

This is a very detailed article

One of the examples Newcastle gave in reaching the decision was a tweet in which Ms Smith said: “It’s like they’re trying to trans the gay away. You’re a young woman who likes sport? YOU’VE BEEN BORN IN THE WRONG BODY!!!! You’re a young man who likes makeup and dressing up??? YOU’VE BEEN BORN IN THE WRONG BODY!!!! Make it make sense.”

She added that she was “jumpy” every time her doorbell rang and avoided going into Newcastle city centre, adding: “People on social media have said things like wishing I’d get glassed in the pub, or wishing that I was in Gaza. I don’t feel safe now.”

It's absolutely bonkers and horrific.

Nothing screams equality and diversity more than a football club and the premier league targeting a gay woman incase her thoughts upset a man.

How did no one involved in this investigation boil it down to the sentence above and put a stop to it?! The basic facts, and the optics, of this are appalling.

NUFC doubled down as they won't admit to grossly overstepping using flawed logic. They were relying on this woman to simply disappear so I'm cheering her on - what they are doing is wrong and illegal.

It's difficult to see the impact of a lack of policy guidance in playing out all over the place, thank you to all the brave women challenging this.

Nothing screams equality and diversity more than a football club, owned by Saudi Arabia, which criminalises LGB people and has does not have equal rights for women, and the premier league targeting a gay woman incase her thoughts upset a man.

Hope you don't mind the slight fix there velvetstars

This is appalling. I’ve got my spade out if she needs any flowers planting - this deserves a whole flowerbed

It fucking stinks.

My word, what a horrible situation. As others have said, they've banned her, but taken no action against people who have made intimidating posts, including mock ups of her being hanged, wishing that she'll be glassed and the like.

For expressing perfectly legal views. I see no world in which they haven't discriminated against her.

Does anyone know if there is an opportunity to garden?

It is extraordinary. How stupid are they?

Newcastle will have a head of security who will be very close to the police, quite possibly a former senior policeman. They are effectively running a major event every other week, with risks of violence between supporters and a potential terrorism target. They will also have lots of “rainbow laces” stuff pumped out be the Premier League, with the aim of countering grass roots homophobia.

Inevitably on the latter the “T” snuck in and took centre stage. At AFC Bournemouth they have kids waving the pale pink and blue Progress flags before matches and you used to have to file past a much larger then life cutout of Sophie Cook, a transgender former Labour candidate. At the same time they are heavily promoting their women’s team. No one seems to have joined the dots. If the FA is pushing transgender’”equality” they will do great damage to the women’s game. Their virtue signalling, more than in most organisations, comes across as threatening and misogynistic.

I'm wondering who has advised them that this was a lawful course of action and then who advised them not to reverse the decision when Linzi appealed the decision and now who is advising them that they have any chance of winning if it goes to court. Surely they've had legal advice and they are aware of Forstater?

Their behaviour seems so blatantly egregious it makes you wonder if activist lawyers are already involved. Perhaps Linzi correctly sexed a man (one who wants other people to perceive him as a woman) somewhere along the line and they are going to try and get a ruling on "misgendering" being an unacceptable manifestation of GC belief.

Not really ironic at all is it? Saudi Arabia and trans activism have homophobia in common.

(Do I need to declare I'm a Sunderland fan?)

“The story of the stadium Stasi”

https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1753528554929947067

Love it. They suggest anyone who is a regular football fan who has ever posted GC comments on social media should make a subject access request to both their club and the Premier League.

I don't think you need Forstater. It's an egregious breach of the DPA 2018/GDPR, as there was no legal basis to process Linzi's data (other than the usual account data they hold for all club members).

Forstater will still be crucial. There may be a breach of data protection going on here but there is also discrimination on the basis of a protected belief.

Another gig shooting fish in a barrel for Ben Cooper, methinks.

A very peculiar Twitter account popped up floating and talking about her a lot in the autumn.

The one claiming to be an employee of NUFC?

Forstater will still be crucial. There may be a breach of data protection going on here but there is also discrimination on the basis of a protected belief.

I would be really surprised if the club try to contest the legal action. The law is now crystal clear: under the Equality Act, you cannot discriminate against people with gender-critical beliefs. After the Forstater precedent, we saw wins for Allison Bailey, Rachel Meade and Jo Phoenix. Perhaps more pertinent for this case, we saw two organisations - the Stand comedy club in Edinburgh and Nottingham City Council - back down when threatened with legal action after discriminating against women with gender-critical beliefs (Joanna Cherry and Julie Bindel).

I imagine Newcastle's lawyers, if they are remotely competent, will explain to them that they need to issue an apology immediately and not attempt to fight the legal action.

As for the Data Protection Act, I'm less clear about that - you'd imagine it breaches some law or other to follow people around and record information about their movements, but who knows?

Is surveillance like this even legal? It does not seem like it should be.

I would be really surprised if the club try to contest the legal action. The law is now crystal clear: under the Equality Act, you cannot discriminate against people with gender-critical beliefs.

It astounds me each time a company doesn't settle tbh but there are activist lawyers out there who are still giving bad advice to their clients so perhaps it shouldn't be that surprising.

Also, obviously we don't know the details of this case but it is possible that they have been advised that the manifestation of Linzi's beliefs have gone beyond what is protected. Perhaps Linzi has done some "misgendering" or something. We know they are desperate to have it out in court on that one because it was stated in Maya's judgement that her success did not mean that GC people could "misgender trans persons with impunity".

Also there are two organisations involved here, the Premier League and NUFC and that probably complicates things.

Oh, I’m sure Linzi will take action using Forstater too, but my point is that the club can’t wriggle out of it, if any of the data was collected pre-Forstater, because what they were doing was already unlawful under the DPA/GDPR.

Incredibly sinister - and again evidence of how the tactics evidenced in the Denton's Report are used.
Sophie Cook mentioned upthread is employed by the trans captured CPS as their misnamed "Speak Out champion" .
Remember the hounding of the Social Worker Rachel Meade started with complaints from a transactivist who works for Sport England.
Newcastle of course work with Stonewall and with their relentless campaign to dismantle women's sport.

Now the press are onto exposing all this, they won't stop.

https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/premier-league-strengthens-its-commitment-to-lgbtplus-inclusion-through-new-strategic-partnership-with-stonewall/

I dont understand how these corporations still think its 2017? dont they read the papers?

Fucking hell, that's really disturbing.