Website highlighting women athletes and their rightful sporting titles stolen by men

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She Won is a simple and effective idea - a long long LONG list of women who should have been awarded first place in a variety of sports, but whose rightful places were taken by the men allowed to compete against them.

And a list of men competing in women's sports.

Dates and details.

A brilliant resource to link to any debate about how this really doesn't matter, there are too few instances of this to note, bla bla bla .....

Please share if you can:

https://www.shewon.org/

That is a depressingly long list. 😔 Great idea, sobering reading.

Brilliant.

That’s great. I tried to start a thread like that here but it got too difficult to keep track😡

Cycling seems to have a problem 🤔

What this list can’t quantify:

The women and girls further down whose lives were affected by being bumped. The ones who finished 9th and didn’t make a track and field final or a swimming final, for instance. It’s a great thing to be able to say you made the final. There are unknown women and girls who didn’t because of males.

The women and girls who didn’t make the team. For example when Hannah Mouncey played AFL, a woman got bumped to the bench and another woman got bumped out of the match day squad. Multiply that by however many games in that season.

Then the woman who didn’t get to represent Australia at the Asian Handball championships because Mouncey was selected. A woman stayed at home because of that, missed out on representing her country in a major championship. And then the same in actual handball games, someone not selected for the match, someone not on the bench having been bumped down.

Then all the women who had to play AFL - a contact sport - against Mouncey across the season. And all the women, some Asian women in hijabs, who had to play against Mouncey in that Asian handball championship.

And all the women who had to share changing rooms and showers with Mouncey across both sports. They complained about this and were branded transphobic.

Then multiply this by all the Mounceys of the world who didn’t come “first” in a race of sorts but still had the same impact.

Thousands of women and girls whose names won’t make this list, who have just had to suffer.

And not only the lost titles, medals and trophies, but the prize money, sponsorships and US college places, chances for Olympic selection, the injuries, bulldozed physical boundaries, self- and family-selected exclusion, etc. The fallout is immense.

Great to have it listed in one place, depressing though

It's a great yet depressing resource. Things are changing as reality evidences the unfairness. It also helps that the type of people pushing all this in sport are finally being exposed (see the Rachel Meade case which was an eye opener for this)

Love that this list is being compiled.
Hate that it needs to be (and will keep needing to be for a good while yet).

Thanks OP. Yes, who'd be a woman cyclist these days? Let's dream of the time these cheats are stripped of their titles and the talented women they shoved out of the way are restored.

The Angela Rayners and Lisa Nandys of this world should be pressed for comment on this.

This is a brilliant resource to show the scale of the problem and respond to ignorant claims like "there are no trans athletes dominating women's sport".

Though when trying this with TRAs they tend to do their usual tactic of immediately and disingenuously switching their argument, to something like "this website only has a few hundred events over two decades, this is nothing compared to how many competitions there have been worldwide in total, this is insignificant" or similar. Frustrating.

Men in women's sports is SO unpopular here in the USA. It just goes to show the power of an ideological minority if they are willing to be ruthless to the point of brainwashing children, teens, university students and anyone gullible enough to value perceived public opinion over biological fact.

Yes depressingly long list. But really helps to counteract the “it’s just a few, it doesn’t really matter”

In terms of this list - does it matter at what level women are losing out? Is it exclusively about national level competitions or can lower ranked events be included?

There's invitational events that appear and a section at the end for things like games shows and eating competitions so who knows.

The form you have to fill in to inform them is shown below. You could fill it in and see what they do

Yes to all these women. And the intangible impacts.

When Sharron Davies was displaced from her rightful place on the podium because of state-sponsored doping, not only did Sharron and her father sacrifice so much when they protested, two generations and more of girls and young women didn't have the benefit of a gold medallist role model and as ambassador for swimming and sport in general.

Young girls in the UK lost out. Can you think what a boost it might have given to grassroots sports in the UK if Sharron had gold medalled? The funding it would have attracted decades before it did? Maybe some better support of community swimming pools and we wouldn't have the dearth that we do know.

Maybe it would have boosted girls' participation in sport in general, including athletics. Maybe we'd have a decent body of knowledge about training women rather than basing all we know on the male body.

There were far wider and more general harms in addition to those that happened to the individuals and displaced individuals in this frame. The same and greater harms will flow from allowing mediocre men to displace women and undermine the grassroots to elite infrastructure. If there is an impact at the community level, it will also displace girls and women from the sort of activities that established exercise habits and maintain health into later life.

Thank you. I'll give it a go.

I wonder if they included the Gaming event supposed to be for women, to encourage women in gaming events. A load of young men turned up and all the top places (9 out of the first 10) were taken by XY's

@highame I hadn't heard of that but absolutely no surprise to hear what happened, so depressing.

It's like what people don't understand about chess. Chess competitons aren't segregated by sex because women are worse at chess or are at a physical disadvantage - they're segregated by sex to encourage more women to participate. So many people (mostly men but even some women) can't seem to understand that a male dominated activity or environment is intimidating and scary to many women, so a mixed chess tournament doesn't feel welcoming to many women full stop.

I even had a female aquaintance argue with me about this, that chess should be mixed because if we said we needed female only chess comps that would imply that we thought women were not as clever or had weaker "female brains". I said "well, have you entered a mixed chess competition" and she said "oh no I wouldn't want to, chess is scary"

Indeed. And you can much the same argument for darts, cue sports, many other things.