NSPCC/Childline chat rooms and 'top surgery'

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I know there's been concerns about the NSPCC on these boards before but i thought this article deserved a new thread

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/27/nspcc-chat-rooms-encourages-girls-breast-top-surgery/

https://archive.ph/3UMDB

Their spokesperson at the end 'young people', he means children. Why can't he say children?

The whole idea of chat board for kids is rather horrifying.

It's one thing to have a board where children can ask a question and that is answered by a member of nspcc staff, but to have a board where unhappy children can discuss with other unhappy children how to do things in secret. I presume there is no way for nspcc to know which users are actually unhappy children and which are adults with a multitude of reasons for wanting young children to do things to their bodies. And unhappy children are a damn sight easier to groom than happy ones.

Plus assuming it is all actual children, what the hell do they know about drugs and blockers and binders. Have they researched them, got proper data etc? No they've watched some tiktok videos!

From the looks of it the safeguarding from nspcc on this is non existent

I'd put money on it that some on those chat rooms will be adults - and likely predatory adults as well.

I'll raise you. They're not just predatory adults. Most of the camouflaging adults will be men.

For the hard of individual thought: it isn't sexist to use a statistic. It's sexist to assume what the statistic is. In this case, most adult sexual predators are men. That's not made up.

I'm glad James Esses has got this into the Telegraph. Quite apart from any adult visitors, running a "gender identity" chatroom for children and young people is about as sensible as running an "anorexia" chatroom or a "suicide" chatroom for children and young people. How do they stop the children from sharing how-to information, from encouraging each other to go further and further along this pathway, or from competing with each other?

Childline don't seem to have clocked this at all.

Very worrying.

Why isn't the Charity Commission all over this?

Presumably another politically captured institution self identifying as a politically neutral one?

But this is absolutely contrary to any safeguarding rules.

On a press release any time soon.

Safeguarding.

The posters on FWR on a sub-forum of Mumsnet and their absurd concerns about safeguarding and children…

Dinosaurs, eh.

When will these 3rd sector organisations start to care about their core missions and see what they're facilitating. It does feel as if they've been captured by the same dangerous ideology that saw forced teaming in the 1990s. And not entirely dissimilar to the contemporary Hansard debates about child prostitution and the age of consent in the C19.

James Esses, 31, a former Childline counsellor who was asked to leave after raising concerns that the charity had been captured by trans lobbyists and about the lack of ability to verify the age of those using the charity’s website.

Oh my good goddess.

He was sacked for raising safeguarding concerns.

That's safeguarding failure 101. It's supposed to be 'safeguarding is for everyone' and 'you won't face negative consequences if you whistleblow' but this is the opposite.

Who can I complain to about this terrifying breach of safeguarding?

And from that reporting, if correct, I bet they didn't investigate his concerns at all - which would be another safeguarding failure.

I wonder what legal recourse is available for volunteer positions, because if he'd been employed this would be another slam dunk tribunal win from the sounds of it.

I'd crowdfund to take NSPCC to court over their deliberate removal of a person as a result of raising safeguarding concerns.

Doesn't the lack of ability to verify age breach the recent online safety bill too?

Sounds like NSPCC are breaking the law in several ways if this is true (which it very much sounds is the case).

The NSPCC is the only charity with statutory safeguarding powers. This has been going at Childline (overseen by the NSPCC) on for years. Since at least 2020. And it's been raised again and again. One can only assume purposeful, strategic ignorance on the part of government by this point because if the NSPCC and Childline is found wanting, just who will the government turn to with a press release and a wodge of cash to roll out a new course and a helpline?

This will never get picked up and dealt with. Never.

They need the NSPCC and Childline for when the very narrowly drawn failing are "found and acted upon" in certain other charities.

Baroness Nicholson:

https://x.com/baronessnichol/status/1751553569927336054?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/baronessnichol/status/1751622667646451808?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

If this was a bunch of kids egging each other on to be more anorexic it would have been shut down instantly. What will it take for people to recognise that there's a social contagion element to gender ideology?