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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

to find Jon Ronson a bit disingenuous?

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shillyme · 26/01/2024 22:08

Been listening to the new series of Things fell apart on BBC Sounds and in some ways its an interesting show but on several occasions its quite apparent where he glosses over things like how Schools in Florida were putting together support plans for trans identifying pupils without informing parents, saying their were only a small number of plans in place and that it was really just the right wing whipping up a frenzy about trans identities to win votes and stoke the culture war. The issue was that the mother clearly stated her daughter went from being a normal girl who never expressed any distress over her gender to wanting to identify as non binary and even talking about hormones in a very short period of time at a young age under the influence of her new friendship group she was keen to fit in with. Ronson didn't look into any of this but did have a quote from an lgbtq activist who spoke against the idea that trans identity was contagious.

In another episode a quote on the BLM website (now removed) was mentioned by a the guy who made the plandemic films. The quote was something like " we exist to disrupt the western proscribed nuclear family" So the plandemic guy mentions this as an example of BLM plan to destroy the american way of life that he loves. Jon Ronson then says "they didn't really mean it like that and it just meant that they wanted the community to support each other".

Now I know Ronson isn't stupid and I am well versed in marxist theory having been a card carrying communist at one point but in marxist theory the nuclear family is seen as something that operates as a tool of capitalism and that it should be dismantled so that a new form of society can be created. So he must know that, so why does he fudge it? I am not making any judgement on the concept but he takes a very biased view and fudges the truth to make things fit his own perception which in turn lessens the value of his work.

People seem to love him and I've enjoyed some of his work but noticing his hypocrisy has really lowered my opinion of him.

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nauticant · 12/05/2024 12:41

Ronson's not a journalist, he's a creator of narratives that align with how he sees the world (it terms of how it should be). Sort of a soft propagandist.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 12/05/2024 23:52

YABVU, OP as the "a bit" in your heading is doing a lot of heavy lifting. JR is a total grifter with zero journalistic integrity. HTH

Pixiesgirl · 13/05/2024 00:04

He's a snivelling grifter. Was it him, where someone had posted a thread on here about him and his wife turned up to defend his honour? Or did I imagine that?

ILikeDungs · 13/05/2024 00:33

I can't listen to that self satisfied twat. His voice, his obfuscation, his rejection of facts that don't fit his version of "right side of history".

Listen Ronson: apologise. To women, and to Glinner. You were wrong. Walk the golden bridge and we might even forgive you on the other side. You complete and utter wanker.

NotBadConsidering · 13/05/2024 00:38

Seeks to deal with untruths. Calls a man who murdered two women “she”.

He cannot self reflect.

lonelywater · 13/05/2024 01:07

I do find Ronson strange. He is clearly smarter than, say talcum (not a high bar, admittedly) and not so obviously dialled into planet Zog, and yet he cannot bring himself to deviate from the gender wang catechism.

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