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23 Gender Crits vs Robinson's Bar Belfast - Court Case

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fromorbit · 23/01/2024 19:45

Gender crit cases are arriving like buses in NI it seems with the Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival thread just starting here is another one.

23 people are taking Robinson’s bar Belfast, to court for refusing to serve them due to their gender-critical beliefs following a Let Women Speak event. One gay man was even headbutted by a barman! Gardening needed at the usual site under :

Assaulted and refused service at a pub for supporting women’s rights

We are raising funds to take a pub to court because it refused to serve us due to our legally protected beliefs in biological sex.
Help us support women’s rights and free speech in Northern Ireland.
We are a group of 23 people – female, male, lesbian, gay, straight, young and old, from Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and the Republic of Ireland – who were refused service in Robinson’s Bar, Belfast, because of our legally-protected beliefs about women’s rights.
What happened to us is unlawful. It is discrimination. And it sets a dangerous precedent.
As well as being refused service, an older gay man who was part of our group was violently assaulted by a member of staff. It was a terrifying situation to be in – to be targeted for our beliefs, and subject to violence.
We are crowdfunding to pay the legal fees to take this case to court in Belfast, and uphold the principle that it is illegal to discriminate against people for holding gender critical beliefs and views that support the rights of women, girls and LGB (Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual) people.
Specifically, we are taking the owners of Robinson’s Bar, Belfast, to court to seek redress, an apology, and a promise of staff training, so that this doesn’t happen again.
No woman or man should ever be discriminated against because they believe in women’s sex-based rights and that biological sex is real, immutable, and important in policy and in law.
Help us to:

  • Seek justice;
  • Right this wrong, and
  • Send a message to all service providers that women’s rights and LGB rights can’t be trampled on in this way.

This could set another great precedent for suing establishments that have been targeting sex realists.

Remember folks if you have been discriminated against for believing in biological sex act now - talk to Sex Matters, get the evidence together, get a lawyer. You may not even need to go to court, many will fold before that the way these cases are going.

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StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2024 20:52

I'm so glad people are empowered to stand up for themselves in the face of this. Will get the old hoe out in the morning.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2024 22:16

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23 Gender Crits vs Robinson's Bar Belfast - Court Case
Gassylady · 23/01/2024 22:31

Thanks for the info what nasty behaviour

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 17/09/2024 02:40

IwantToRetire · 17/09/2024 00:19

Thank you for the update.

IwantToRetire · 17/09/2024 17:40

Have to admit I had totally forgotten up this.

FWR needs one of thos online calendars that reminds us.

Hoping for a postive outcome, but ...

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/09/2024 13:26

Northern Ireland has pretty strong protection for religious and political belief in our legislation - for obvious historical reasons - so I’m hoping the judiciary can recognise that the bar staff discriminated against the women on grounds of disliking their protected beliefs.

UtopiaPlanitia · 18/09/2024 18:01

Here’s some additional info re protected religious belief & political opinion in N Ireland:

https://www.equalityni.org/Individuals/I-have-a-problem-with-a-service/Religious-belief-Political-opinion

‘Political opinion’ includes support of any Northern Ireland or UK government politics and matters of public policy. For example: Treated less favourably because you are or perceived to be nationalist or unionist. However, not all political opinions have the protection of the law. It does not protect political opinions that support or approve of the use of violence for political ends.

Your rights also apply if you do not hold any religious belief or political opinion.

If as a result of these grounds you are treated worse than another person in a similar situation, you can challenge the treatment under the law.'

'You are protected from religious belief and political opinion discrimination in the provision of a wide range of services whether they are paid for or free. They include:

  • Access to public places
  • Facilities for education
  • Housing / Accommodation
  • Health
  • Receiving or using services such as:

Financial services, Banking / Insurance, Government departments, Entertainment, Transport

  • Professional or trade services


However, there are limited circumstances where religious belief and political opinion discrimination is allowed. Membership of political parties, associations and charities set up for people of a particular religious belief or political opinion group may be allowed to discriminate in some circumstances.'

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